What’s happening in California right now is a warning shot to the rest of the country

[Professor Emeritus]

That "fires, homelessness, and garbage" line was sensationalist bullshyt. None of those issues have ANYTHING to do with most people being unhappy in California.

California's big problems are that it's too expensive to live in the major cities, there's too much traffic, there's not enough housing, just too much urban crowding. The state as a whole ain't even crowded (go anywhere north of San Fran, between the bays, or east of the coast and it's open as fukk), but most of the people live in the crowded spots so that's what you hear. A lot of the rural areas have been taken over by agribusiness too or are just deserts not really meant for human habitation so they ain't the hottest spots to live either.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

That "fires, homelessness, and garbage" line was sensationalist bullshyt. None of those issues have ANYTHING to do with most people being unhappy in California.

California's big problems are that it's too expensive to live in the major cities, there's too much traffic, there's not enough housing, just too much urban crowding. The state as a whole ain't even crowded (go anywhere north of San Fran, between the bays, or east of the coast and it's open as fukk), but most of the people live in the crowded spots so that's what you hear. A lot of the rural areas have been taken over by agribusiness too or are just deserts not really meant for human habitation so they ain't the hottest spots to live either.

All that said I would rather live in Los Angeles than any other city in America. That might be changing though if they keep trying to price us out of Inglewood.

My uncle is tryna get the fukk outta LA and he been there for 20 years. Keeps saying it’s too fukkin crowded now and it’s not ideal to raise a big family so he fukkin with Texas maybe. Never thought I’d see the day my LA fam would consider leaving.

 

[Wargames]

If you got paper cali is a great place to live... if your money ain’t right shyt can be real miserable.. same is said for NYC

the city is the new suburbs, and the suburbs is the new hood

That actually is the global norm. The suburbs only became big in America because of our love for cars and white flight.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That "fires, homelessness, and garbage" line was sensationalist bullshyt. None of those issues have ANYTHING to do with most people being unhappy in California.

California's big problems are that it's too expensive to live in the major cities, there's too much traffic, there's not enough housing, just too much urban crowding. The state as a whole ain't even crowded (go anywhere north of San Fran, between the bays, or east of the coast and it's open as fukk), but most of the people live in the crowded spots so that's what you hear. A lot of the rural areas have been taken over by agribusiness too or are just deserts not really meant for human habitation so they ain't the hottest spots to live either.

All that said I would rather live in Los Angeles than any other city in America. That might be changing though if they keep trying to price us out of Inglewood.

there are hundreds of thousands of people here in CA advocating for our cities to become more dense, build up bigger/taller apartment and condo buildings, more self sustained walkable neighborhoods, and expand public trans so that CA cities look/operate more like the dense cities on the east coast. The folks who want to be in the city aren’t upset with “crowding”, more so our lack of infrastructure to support the new demand placed on cities which you mentioned - housing and traffic (which goes to the desire for expanded pub trans)

 

[Professor Emeritus]

My uncle is tryna get the fukk outta LA and he been there for 20 years. Keeps saying it’s too fukkin crowded now and it’s not ideal to raise a big family so he fukkin with Texas maybe. Never thought I’d see the day my LA fam would consider leaving.

Yeah, that was exactly what I was saying to someone the other day, I'm not comfortable raising my daughters in the city (too much pollution, traffic, materialism, not enough nature) and thinking of switching up to a gig where I can be outside the city for at least half the week. Just gotta convince my wife she'll be okay cause all her friends in the city.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

there are hundreds of thousands of people here in CA advocating for our cities to become more dense, build up bigger/taller apartment and condo buildings, more self sustained walkable neighborhoods, and expand public trans so that CA cities look/operate more like the dense cities on the east coast. The folks who want to be in the city aren’t upset with “crowding”, more so our lack of infrastructure to support the new demand placed on cities which you mentioned - housing and traffic (which goes to the desire for expanded pub trans)

Haven't we had this argument already? Beyond the major environmental problems, increased health issues, and higher crime rates, just the mere fact of completely divorcing our lives from nature fukks us up.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That actually is the global norm. The suburbs only became big in America because of our love for cars and white flight.

Also the baby boom, people were having bigger families after the US began to grow from its now new found wealth post WW II. And our bigger is better mentality, the average home size has doubled from ~1200 sq ft in the 60’s to 2600...yet our families are smaller

From a sustainability standpoint, it’s actually better to live in smaller denser housing and we’re having much smaller families much later in life, so it further eliminates the need for suburban sprawl. the suburbs are still appealing to those savoring the “American values” of the 50’s/60’s, but you look a Europeans that have lived in density for centuries, public parks and green spaces in the city are used to let their kids play, not back yards and cul de sacs, and frequent getaways to seaside or countryside towns give them their break (we need more vacation time in the US).

But yea, I don’t see the need for so much urban sprawl, the way the Houston metro is organized, and Houston itself, is awful. I’d much rather see the urban jungles of NY with countryside just an hour away. Might take 2 hours to get from the center of Houston to outside of its suburbs, vastly wasted space as households of 1-4 people occupy cheap 3500 sq ft homes

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Haven't we had this argument already? Beyond the major environmental problems, increased health issues, and higher crime rates, just the mere fact of completely divorcing our lives from nature fukks us up.

There are environmental pros and cons of both sides, denser cities are more sustainable, urban sprawl is not - from more cars needed to more disruption to the environment to lay road, sewage, power lines. The nature part is not something you can even attempt to qualify, people get out into nature at different clips, you don’t need to live on a 40 acre farm to enjoy nature, moving back to the country also doesn’t mean all of a suddenly we become an agrarian society so your idea of we’d move more is moot, people who care about movement move...thus all the fitness centers and home equipment.

Heath issues are moot as well, rural populations are having a harder time with health because there’s no health care available close to them, and most of our health issues are related to increased obesity, which yes, partly due to less movement, but mainly due to overeating and how cheap processed food is in America.

Crime rates are higher because there are more people....gasp. You’ll also find variance by neighborhood, so suffices to say more economic homogeneity, as opposed to how it’s clustered in cities, would decrease crime.

But please, feel free to go live your life on the prairie, that’s not what the majority of people are clamoring for

 

[Robbie3000]

Also the baby boom, people were having bigger families after the US began to grow from its now new found wealth post WW II. And our bigger is better mentality, the average home size has doubled from ~1200 sq ft in the 60’s to 2600...yet our families are smaller

From a sustainability standpoint, it’s actually better to live in smaller denser housing and we’re having much smaller families much later in life, so it further eliminates the need for suburban sprawl. the suburbs are still appealing to those savoring the “American values” of the 50’s/60’s, but you look a Europeans that have lived in density for centuries, public parks and green spaces in the city are used to let their kids play, not back yards and cul de sacs, and frequent getaways to seaside or countryside towns give them their break (we need more vacation time in the US).

But yea, I don’t see the need for so much urban sprawl, the way the Houston metro is organized, and Houston itself, is awful. I’d much rather see the urban jungles of NY with countryside just an hour away. Might take 2 hours to get from the center of Houston to outside of its suburbs, vastly wasted space as households of 1-4 people occupy cheap 3500 sq ft homes

#Facts. I could never go back to living in the suburbs. Soulless subdivisions, zero walk ability, chain restaurants etc. No real sense of neighborhood or community, just a collection of oversize, poorly designed and cheaply built houses designed to make people feel like they have more than they do.

If I can't walk to the 7/11 or to a coffee shop, I don't want to live in an area.

 

[Shogun]

The world is unhappy

Theres never been a time when people were collectively "happy". Its a myth that we'll never actually realize.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Theres never been a time when people were collectively "happy". Its a myth that we'll never actually realize.

Agree, people have this false idea when life thousands of years ago was chill for a bit until you couldn’t sustain yourself off your land/resources then go to war with the next clan to take over their lands/resources. Life ain’t never been a big happiness fest, people have to find their own happy, stop expecting “society” to universalize happiness for you

 

[rapbeats]

The game is rigged, get your paper and avoid expensive responsibilities/liabilities and live life to the fullest. The rich and Professional Managerial Class ain't giving up their spots in elite cities beloveds.

you can't "get your paper' if the game is rigged. only a small very small portion of people will be able to "get their paper" most wont have the chance to do so no matter what they attempt to do due to the rigged game.

 

[rapbeats]

That "fires, homelessness, and garbage" line was sensationalist bullshyt. None of those issues have ANYTHING to do with most people being unhappy in California.

California's big problems are that it's too expensive to live in the major cities, there's too much traffic, there's not enough housing, just too much urban crowding. The state as a whole ain't even crowded (go anywhere north of San Fran, between the bays, or east of the coast and it's open as fukk), but most of the people live in the crowded spots so that's what you hear. A lot of the rural areas have been taken over by agribusiness too or are just deserts not really meant for human habitation so they ain't the hottest spots to live either.

All that said I would rather live in Los Angeles than any other city in America. That might be changing though if they keep trying to price us out of Inglewood.

oh you gone get up outta inglewood. lol. they are doing everything in their power to get you up out of there. if you have any change, purchase yourself a home(small or large) doesnt matter. condo if all else fails. cause if not. odds are they will eventually price you out. especially once the stadium hits and all the surrounding new stuff hits. the white man and woman are walking their dogs as i type this message. lol :-(

 

[Professor Emeritus]

odds are they will eventually price you out. especially once the stadium hits and all the surrounding new stuff hits. the white man and woman are walking their dogs as i type this message. lol :-(

 

[rapbeats]

We already got priced out of the place we were staying in a bit more than a year ago, went from $1600 to $2750 just like that (with "renovations"). I've been on the move for work since then and haven't had a steady place. At this point I'm thinking there's a good chance once we get back there ain't gonna be anything left that we're willing to rent.

if you can afford 2k in rent even if thats a barely. find you a little house and let that be that. not rent, but buy it. at this point in time that is the only way you can survive. you can make a pretty good living but if you're renting and not making a GREAT living. you too will one day be priced out. thats how insane these rents are going up.