Whats more beneficial to live your life? Complete Selfishness or Complete Selflessness

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  • Selfish

    Votes: 11 61.1%
  • Selfless

    Votes: 7 38.9%

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King Khufu

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Anyways speak on the topic title.


Why is someone hacking me as I type?? They are changing my spelling and it's not on auto correct.
 

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It is against the biological makeup of living beings to put the needs of someone who is not in your family ahead of your own.

No one is "selfless" they are choosing to get their own internal esteem from being seen as someone who is. Meaning: someone who is "selfless" is still selfishly acting because of how it makes them feel/look/be seen, etc. They are choosing that "reputation" as their legacy as opposed to a different one: financial etc.

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It is against the biological makeup of living beings to put the needs of someone who is not in your family ahead of your own.

No one is "selfless" they are choosing to get their own internal esteem from being seen as someone who is. Meaning: someone who is "selfless" is still selfishly acting because of how it makes them feel/look/be seen, etc. They are choosing that "reputation" as their legacy as opposed to a different one: financial etc.

:manny:

Interesting. . .
So what you saying is on a biological level to our base consciousness that we as humans only are territorial with the morality to be selfless amongst friends or partners is a constructed fantasy two police Society on a mass scale or are you saying that we developed selflessness to build a multi-family Society?
 

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Selfish because your putting your needs above all, you can’t truly live your life if you aren’t focusing on your self
 

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Interesting. . .
So what you saying is on a biological level to our base consciousness that we as humans only are territorial with the morality to be selfless amongst friends or partners is a constructed fantasy two police Society on a mass scale or are you saying that we developed selflessness to build a multi-family Society?

I don't know what the fyck you're saying :whoa:

But I'm saying this... Humans have over-evolved. There is no selfish or selfless in the animal kingdom because they don't think about legacy or reputation. People who are "selfless" in the traditional sense, are thinking about how they want to be "remembered" how they want "people to think about them" etc. They think about legacy. They want their legacy/reputation to be a "good person" and it is a selfish thought, just like the thoughts of someone who wants to be remembered as a rich person.
 

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I don't know what the fyck you're saying :whoa:

But I'm saying this... Humans have over-evolved. There is no selfish or selfless in the animal kingdom because they don't think about legacy or reputation. People who are "selfless" in the traditional sense, are thinking about how they want to be "remembered" how they want "people to think about them" etc. They think about legacy. They want their legacy/reputation to be a "good person" and it is a selfish thought, just like the thoughts of someone who wants to be remembered as a rich person.

Nah I get all that let me break it down to what I am asking, was the ability to be selfless a need developed for mind control or was it developed to build up society?
 

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I don't know about every one else but being selfish is the only way to live for me. It depends on your quality of life and the people around you.

A person that doesn't have family and outsiders catering to them and doing things for them would benefit more from being selfish than selfless. Majority of people that have this positive attitude of wanting to help others already have people catering to them so they can afford to worry about other people.

For some people if they don't put themselves first no one else will.
 

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Nah I get all that let me break it down to what I am asking, was the ability to be selfless a need developed for mind control or was it developed to build up society?

honestly, I think civility started with courting/mating. Once people started to "need" to be civil to mate, things evolved from there. Once it was no longer "I want her, I grab her" "caveman" type of logic, once it became "you need to give me ten cows for her" and then "you need to treat her well", then people began to change their interactions.

Obviously I'm generalizing and I'm not saying it was "better" without civility :whoa: but I would attest it to that honestly.
 
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