whats the biggest Mania match wwe could make today that would compare to Rock vs Hogan?

[NOSaintsFan02]

Y’all mentioning Reigns but that nikka ain’t moving the needle like that. And i got no beef against him. But just cuz he’s WWE’s chosen one doesn’t mean he gets to automatically go on the level of a “pass the torch” match guy. Even if WWE forced a match like that (and they sure as hell would try) it wouldn’t do numbers or generate hype like Rock / Hogan.

Think of the question. What match can replicate Rock/Hogan. Reigns isn’t even Cena level lol. He never moved the needle like that and sadly probably never will.

Cena ain’t on Rock, Hogan, or Austin level but he was big enough to be in a huge match like that where the needle moved. Reigns...not so much.

 

[stro]

Nothing even close could compare. The closest you could get is maybe a Hogan/Warrior match, if they hadn't have done Cena/Roman on a random B PPV and hadn't let Roman stay cold for the past year.


The mentions of Rock vs anyone is Rock is a FULL generation ago, arguably 2. He did his passing of the torch match nearly a decade ago, and that guy also did a passing of the torch match to the next guy in line. It'd be like Andre vs Austin at WM 14 or some shyt.

 

[TrueEpic08]

There isn't one, point blank period.

They don't build or protect stars well enough to put together those types of matches. Even the biggest guy on the roster, Brock Lesnar, has been completely neutered as a draw because the WWE steadfastly refused to protect him when he came in, waited until he was basically just another guy on the roster to rebuild him, and then refused to do anything with his heat (and in fact used it in completely counterproductive ways that have irrevocably damaged him and his opponents), resulting in him being just another guy again.

If you want to compare him to, say, Hogan, then think about this: When Hogan came back to the WWF in 1984, he immediately won the belt from the Iron Sheik, then proceeded to not take a single clean loss* of any sort for over 6 years. Not on TV, not on PPV, and certainly not on house shows (in fact, as far as I can tell Hogan didn't take a clean loss on any house show for 16 fukkING YEARS dating back to his early NJPW and AWA days. This streak was broken by, I shyt you not, Hogan losing to a Jacques Rougeau small package in 1997). Vince used to do this with all of his champions and major challengers: Piper didn't do any clean jobs between 1986 and 1990, and no televised clean jobs for almost 8 years (dude wasn't cleanly beaten in the WWF on TV until 1991). Savage, incredibly giving as he was, had long runs of not doing clean TV jobs. Shawn fukking Michaels of all people didn't do a single job period from the beginning of 1997 until WrestleMania XIV. Austin did something like 3 clean jobs between August of 1997 and April of 2001. I could go on and on. This isn't necessarily the only way to build a big star, but it is certainly the easiest way to do it.

Bottom line being, guys used to get protected, which built and maintained their star power. Now guys and girls are treated like the flavor of the month, tossed aside when Vince tires of them, and end up mired in a wasteland of 50-50 booking. When you do that, you shouldn't be surprised that you don't get stars on the level of Hogan or The Rock.

*Clean loss meaning the guy was pinned, submitted, or knocked out with no consquential interference from an outside party.

 

[The_Dread_Dormammu]

Not on that level but they should have went the Goldberg vs Cena route

 

[THE 101]

Rock vs Brock

Austin vs Brock

Austin vs Cena

Cena vs Goldberg

This is sad. Totally reveals how WWE have been unable to create any new stars in the last 18 or so years.

 

[NYChase718]

Nobody ever notices how rock praises hogan for life
Loves country songs
Made himself look like stone cold wit baldhead and goattee and always says "sumbytch" like austin in his movies
Dwayne picked wwe2k18 video. Game soundtrack and it was all country songs

 

[SpacelySprockets]

reigns vs cena already happened

 

[BlackAchilles]

Cena/Wahlverg/Channing Tatum vs Roman/Momoa/Steven Adams

 

[mannyrs13]

Speaking of, Dreammatch mania happening on youtube channel if anyone interested in these "dream matches". Six matches on wwe 2k20.

Cena vs Hulk
Big e vs Goldberg
Roman vs rock
Plus more

 

[mannyrs13]

Big E and Kofi are a trip.

 

[FooFighters]

There isn't one, point blank period.

They don't build or protect stars well enough to put together those types of matches. Even the biggest guy on the roster, Brock Lesnar, has been completely neutered as a draw because the WWE steadfastly refused to protect him when he came in, waited until he was basically just another guy on the roster to rebuild him, and then refused to do anything with his heat (and in fact used it in completely counterproductive ways that have irrevocably damaged him and his opponents), resulting in him being just another guy again.

If you want to compare him to, say, Hogan, then think about this: When Hogan came back to the WWF in 1984, he immediately won the belt from the Iron Sheik, then proceeded to not take a single clean loss* of any sort for over 6 years. Not on TV, not on PPV, and certainly not on house shows (in fact, as far as I can tell Hogan didn't take a clean loss on any house show for 16 fukkING YEARS dating back to his early NJPW and AWA days. This streak was broken by, I shyt you not, Hogan losing to a Jacques Rougeau small package in 1997). Vince used to do this with all of his champions and major challengers: Piper didn't do any clean jobs between 1986 and 1990, and no televised clean jobs for almost 8 years (dude wasn't cleanly beaten in the WWF on TV until 1991). Savage, incredibly giving as he was, had long runs of not doing clean TV jobs. Shawn fukking Michaels of all people didn't do a single job period from the beginning of 1997 until WrestleMania XIV. Austin did something like 3 clean jobs between August of 1997 and April of 2001. I could go on and on. This isn't necessarily the only way to build a big star, but it is certainly the easiest way to do it.

Bottom line being, guys used to get protected, which built and maintained their star power. Now guys and girls are treated like the flavor of the month, tossed aside when Vince tires of them, and end up mired in a wasteland of 50-50 booking. When you do that, you shouldn't be surprised that you don't get stars on the level of Hogan or The Rock.

*Clean loss meaning the guy was pinned, submitted, or knocked out with no consquential interference from an outside party.

I thought losing through bs was the standard through the 80s to mid-00s

 

[TrueEpic08]

I thought losing through bs was the standard through the 80s to mid-00s

In general, sure, but certain top guys would throw in a clean loss here and there if it benefited a top star and the promotion as a whole. When Hogan finally lost clean for the first time, it was to ostensibly make the new Hogan (Ultimate Warrior). Top stars not losing cleanly for so long builds the up as legitimate threats and positions them above the rest of the roster (if it's done right, of course. See Brock for when the promotion fukks this up), and the BS losses only add to that.

All I was trying to say with that post is that WWE can't ever put on a match like Rock vs Hogan because they've never put in the work to make a money match like that possible. The last person who could have a match like that was John Cena, and he's basically gone without a replacement to fill his spot.

 

[TL15]

If you had a surprise match (not at empty mania )

I could see HHH vs Punk being a huge audience pop

I couldn’t see anything with any build being nearly as big tho

 

[Fanservice]

Shaq vs. Big Show