1 chip being Rondo. I think this just proves it's hard to win with the point guard being the best player on the team rather than is he pass first or shoot first.What success has a pass-first PG had in the last 15 years?
What's the deal with these scoring non-passing point guards?
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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The Celtics would have won a championship with pretty much any starting PG in the league during that season. He was like their 4th/5th best player.
SuburbanPimp
Giving game to lames since the 90s
Well most teams point guards are better scorers than the shooting guards these days.. And the teams style of play has alot to do with assist totals too.
I agree there wasn't trying to say he was the best player on the team. I'm just trying to say you can't build around your point guard whether he is pass or shoot first, so I don't get why people argue which one is more essential to a chip when in reality, the point guard position hasn't been the most important position on the floor for the past 20 years.
Hacksaw Jim Thuggin
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What success has a pass-first PG had in the last 15 years, besides appeasing everybody's opinion that they play the game the 'right' way?
i dont think its even about being a pass-first pg...its more about being WILLING to pass...tony parker can score and does score a lot...but has anybody ever complained about him not passing and running the offense...in the last 15 yrs i think he has been the most successful pg (winning-wise) in the nba....
we gotta bunch of iverson clones now....it is what it is
Hacksaw Jim Thuggin
Superstar
this is another good point...the only team that i can think of that runs a 'system' is the spurs...every other team creates offenses around their players....the spurs get players that fit their style of play
god shamgod
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According to the coli these are the only pg's that can you win with 
history says otherwise
Russ Westbrook is the only "shoot 1st" pg I'll take cuz he impacts the game in several ways outside of scoring the rest
history says otherwiseRuss Westbrook is the only "shoot 1st" pg I'll take cuz he impacts the game in several ways outside of scoring the rest
Gil Scott-Heroin
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It's not as simple as that, especially since a large amount of PGs are among the best scorers in the league. By general rule you'll always have more success with a scoring PG as your #1/#2 option than you will have with a pass first PG, in this current climate.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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What exactly are you trying to say here?i dont think its even about being a pass-first pg...its more about being WILLING to pass...tony parker can score and does score a lot...but has anybody ever complained about him not passing and running the offense...in the last 15 yrs i think he has been the most successful pg (winning-wise) in the nba....
we gotta bunch of iverson clones now....it is what it is
KnickstapeCity
The Big Dikk King
In this climate, yes you will have more success with a shoot first PG, but a bigman that can at least play D and grab + plus an all around wing player will always be the best thing for championship caliber team.
But like you said IN THIS Climate, where there really aren't any bigs on contending teams besides the Spurs, who honestly I don't see get back to the finals, one of these scoring PG's will break through and win.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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According to the coli these are the only pg's that can you win with
Bomberman
Like a C4.
Chucking is different from an effective scoring pg though. A pg should still be able to pass and dictate the tempo of the game, bring the ball up court, analyze the way the game is going, and make the right play. Sometimes the play calls for scoring, by the pg. In that case a pg who can score is an asset.
However chucking is excusable when you're the only offensive option your team has.
However chucking is excusable when you're the only offensive option your team has.
