What's this Black folk were in America before slaves were brought over????

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Yes these are mongloid people who came to America and took the titles of the original black Indians. At the end of the day, theres too many depictions (from before the time these pictures were taken) showing the people here as being what we would call today "black". So that leaves the question of WHAT do we go by if not early depictions/descriptions and not black people's own word of mouth showing that there were black Indians? We cant go by cacs today so what do we use to verify it being true or not? Heres another quote while you ponder this:



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we agree that their were "black looking indians" in the americas but the thing is, they have nothing to do with the hotep's who keep repeating those "we were already here" theories
 

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we agree that their were "black looking indians" in the americas but the thing is, they have nothing to do with the hotep's who keep repeating those "we were already here" theories

So there’s “black looking Indians” some of which having Afros but the argument is still that black people all came on slave ships from Africa? :jbhmm:
 

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black people as in, african descent? yes, those came on the slave ships

black looking dark mongoloids, didn't

So the cacs who came here say they met negro looking indians with afro like hair, yet you say every negro with afro type hair in America came from Africa on slave ships?

You'd probably also deny that black people used to rule in Europe as well so I dont think theres much left to say....
 

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So the cacs who came here say they met negro looking indians with afro like hair, yet you say every negro with afro type hair in America came from Africa on slave ships?

You'd probably also deny that black people used to rule in Europe as well so I dont think theres much left to say....

Plus the fallacy with that thinking is that when Columbus got here,many natives were sent back to Spain. Many slaves were sent to Spain to places like Seville to be indoctrinated. Many of them were either sent back to the americas as slaves,and to assiste with exploration. And I would guess some would have been sent to Africa for valuables like gold as Africans were involved in the slave trade as well. Now if some of you can talk about white ignorance,and say they could have come to america and described natives as "negroes" because they had some similar negroid features. Then why don't you believe they could have looked just like negroes of Africa,sent back to spain and Africa from the Americas. Then upon return to the americas were ignorantly classified under the same umbrella as African,even though they were originaly from the americas!

Arawak Tribe of the Bahamas (The first tribe encountered by Christopher Columbus in the Americas) – Originalpeople.org

^theres a picture in that link to show the first tribe Columbus encountered,there are plenty of people who look black and as african as anybody else in the mix. the only problem here is the brainwashing people have gone through and the ideal they have that all natives in the americas looked like Pochahontas.
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The virgin soil epidemic caused by the arrival of smallpox and other diseases from Europe, combined with Spain’s harsh policies of enslavement, resettlement, and the separation of families, the encomienda system, resulted in Taino society’s drastic decline within a few decades after contact. Attacks by Carib tribes and unrelenting harsh treatment by the Europeans accelerated the process. Although Taino society was destroyed by European expansion, some of their bloodlines persist among the new settlers, primarily Western and African peoples.

I could be reading that wrong,but it also mentions these peoples bloodlines persist among western and african peoples. I think that has some significance as well. After a population decline,and so many being sent into slavery theres no way of knowing exactly how many people there were and how much "blacker" the population looked beforehand.
 

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So the cacs who came here say they met negro looking indians with afro like hair,

we already know there are nappy headed-black looking mongoloid related people all over asia/pacific islands

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Kalākaua - Wikipedia


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A closer look at hair

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yet you say every negro with afro type hair in America came from Africa on slave ships?

the non-mongoloid ones, yeah




You'd probably also deny that black people used to rule in Europe as well so I dont think theres much left to say....

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Exactly. There’s no point going back and forth with people who only believe in narratives given to them by cacs. People of color were ruling Europe right before cacs came here. But the narrative you believe will have cacs overcoming that rulership, going to America and overcoming the indigenous people here (in North AND South), then going to Africa and overcoming them then finally dragging millions upon millions of them and populating two continents with them. Again all right after being ruled over by blacks in Europe. Makes absolutely no sense but that’s what comes with false narratives.

Here’s some more black looking people who become mongloids because of your false narratives:

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Your narratives won’t cover up the pictures breh :yeshrug: :coffee:
 

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Plus the fallacy with that thinking is that when Columbus got here,many natives were sent back to Spain. Many slaves were sent to Spain to places like Seville to be indoctrinated. Many of them were either sent back to the americas as slaves,and to assiste with exploration. And I would guess some would have been sent to Africa for valuables like gold as Africans were involved in the slave trade as well. Now if some of you can talk about white ignorance,and say they could have come to america and described natives as "negroes" because they had some similar negroid features. Then why don't you believe they could have looked just like negroes of Africa,sent back to spain and Africa from the Americas. Then upon return to the americas were ignorantly classified under the same umbrella as African,even though they were originaly from the americas!

Arawak Tribe of the Bahamas (The first tribe encountered by Christopher Columbus in the Americas) – Originalpeople.org

^theres a picture in that link to show the first tribe Columbus encountered,there are plenty of people who look black and as african as anybody else in the mix. the only problem here is the brainwashing people have gone through and the ideal they have that all natives in the americas looked like Pochahontas.
Tropenmuseum_Royal_Tropical_Institute_Objectnumber_60008905_Een_groep_Arowakken_en_Karaiben_in_fe.jpg


The virgin soil epidemic caused by the arrival of smallpox and other diseases from Europe, combined with Spain’s harsh policies of enslavement, resettlement, and the separation of families, the encomienda system, resulted in Taino society’s drastic decline within a few decades after contact. Attacks by Carib tribes and unrelenting harsh treatment by the Europeans accelerated the process. Although Taino society was destroyed by European expansion, some of their bloodlines persist among the new settlers, primarily Western and African peoples.

I could be reading that wrong,but it also mentions these peoples bloodlines persist among western and african peoples. I think that has some significance as well. After a population decline,and so many being sent into slavery theres no way of knowing exactly how many people there were and how much "blacker" the population looked beforehand.

You know your shyt breh :salute:

Powhatan was the father of Pocahontas and was also called “black” by colonialists so even her image was possibly whitewashed. But what you describe was the real slave trade in my opinion. Indigenous people taken from the Americas and taken elsewhere. And the “Africans” that were brought here were probably from here like you said. Which is why in Nigeria for example, every time the igbos try to unify, they have outsiders from the British to the tribes around them band up together and try to put a halt to it.
 

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:ohhh: That’s sounds like something you learned from cacs breh. But if they are telling the truth, then I have a few questions;

Where were the Africans brought/housed once they arrived in America and before they were sold?

What were they sold for and to whom?

How long was the trip from Africa to America on the slave ships?

What did the captured Africans eat on the journey to America?

Were they given fresh water to drink on this journey?

Where did they piss and sh*t while on the slave ships? How did they clean themselves after sh*tting?

Were babies born during the journey? If so, who delivered them?

Did the women menstruate during the journey? If so, were they able to clean themselves or did all the women arrive stank and bloody?


We have eye witness accounts from slaves that detail the conditions though.
Its possible 300 on a ship was not the norm.
You could pack a ship like that but many slaves would die from starvation and horrible conditions.
You could also not pack the ship that tightly to increase survival chances.
Eyewitness accounts from slaves themselves,some say food and water were "plentiful".
So it probably depends on the conditions you were bought over under,it wasn't always 300 slaves in a ship and likely not the norm.
Plus besides fresh water and rain water,slaves could have been given salt water as well.
Matter of fact I somewhat speculate that could be part of the cause for why we react to salt differently than blacks in africa.
 
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we agree that their were "black looking indians" in the americas but the thing is, they have nothing to do with the hotep's who keep repeating those "we were already here" theories

This is the classic cac argument I hear all the time about Ancient Egypt. Once the crakkka has been buried with evidence showing that the Ancient Egyptians were clearly black, they jump to the argument that "well they might have been black but they ain't from West Africa so STFU".

Thank you for exposing yourself as a cac. That picture of Frederick Douglass ain't tricking nobody.
 

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There are wind currents from West Africa that can take you directly to the coast of Brazil....no sail required....a white man (i know people need white people to document stuff first to believe it) has done the trip multiple times. There's oral history with the Ancient Malians that Abubakari abdicated the throne, which was considered a great shame to them from what I read, to travel to the new world. He and all the boats he took was never seen again. Mali was the second most powerful/richest nation on Earth at the time. White people doubt the Malians could reach America with all their wealth and power but, they accept that the Vikings, a group of poor uneducated thieves, did. Again, Mali was the second most powerful/richest nation on Earth at the time. Had their own university already. There's oral history in the new world that the Africans made it over. There’s also peculiarities with other ancient groups having plants, goods and other products that could only be found in the Americas which suggest there was some level of communication between the two continents.
 
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