What's Your Moral View on Humanity?

How would you rate humanity?

  • Mostly good

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • Neutral

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • Mostly bad

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Total voters
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How would you describe the entirety of humanity from your perspective?
Mostly good? Mostly bad? Split down the middle?
Also, how has your view/judgement changed over your lifetime?
Important question that I think informs our political views. I think people are mostly good, a smaller minority are neutral and an even smaller minority are mostly bad.
 
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Well I think it's neutral. I also believe there is truly no objectively moral right or wrong, good or bad. What is, simply is.

For example, there are two men stranded on an island with enough rations for only one man to survive until help arrives. If man A believes he should eat and survive but man B disagrees, who is right and who is wrong? It all comes down to which man is more cunning and possesses more brute strength. The man that remains is neither right or wrong, good or bad, he simply is. Objective morality removes any inexpectations in reality in a case involving multiple actors. This is not what we observe.
 

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Well I think it's neutral. I also believe there is truly no objectively moral right or wrong, good or bad. What is, simply is.

For example, there are two men stranded on an island with enough rations for only one man to survive until help arrives. If man A believes he should eat and survive but man B disagrees, who is right and who is wrong? It all comes down to which man is more cunning and possesses more brute strength. The man that remains is neither right or wrong, good or bad, he simply is. Objective morality removes any inexpectations in reality in a case involving multiple actors. This is not what we observe.
Hmmm . . . I hear that but generally speaking aren't most governments/people against murder in most situations? Stealing in most situations? Bodily harm to others in most situations and give out punishment to those who do these acts when caught/reported? That is agreed upon morality.
 
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Hmmm . . . I hear that but generally speaking aren't most governments/people against murder in most situations? Stealing in most situations? Bodily harm to others in most situations and give out punishment to those who do these acts when caught/reported? That is agreed upon morality.

Murder is either good or bad and it either should or should not be committed. Theft is either good or bad and it either should or should not occur. Bodily harm to others is either good or bad and it either should or should not occur.

All that you mentioned the government and the individual people does/do for its/their own subjective reasoning.This is not agreed upon if there is a difference in opinion and it occurs. "Objective morality removes any inexpectations in reality..." If it was objectively morally right to do something (something that everyone agrees upon) then you would not expect me to do anything otherwise. This is not observed.
 

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Murder is either good or bad and it either should or should not be committed. Theft is either good or bad and it either should or should not occur. Bodily harm to others is either good or bad and it either should or should not occur.

All that you mentioned the government and the individual people does/do for its/their own subjective reasoning.This is not agreed upon if there is a difference in opinion and it occurs. "Objective morality removes any inexpectations in reality..." If it was objectively morally right to do something (something that everyone agrees upon) then you would not expect me to do anything otherwise. This is not observed.
I think that's too strict of reasoning to apply to human beings. People do things all the time they know and feel are wrong and admit it after the fact. That's human nature, emotion is the enemy of reason and we all have both.
I appreciate your participation.
 

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How would you describe the entirety of humanity from your perspective?
Mostly good? Mostly bad? Split down the middle?
Also, how has your view/judgement changed over your lifetime?
Important question that I think informs our political views. I think people are mostly good, a smaller minority are neutral and an even smaller minority are mostly bad.
 

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If we were mostly good, or even neutral, there'd be far less suffering.

We're a species driven by our own self interest even if it's at the expense of others. We may be compelled to give back once we've secured enough for ourselves.

Voted mostly bad cause we ain't shyt :shaq2:
 

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If we were mostly good, or even neutral, there'd be far less suffering.

We're a species driven by our own self interest even if it's at the expense of others. We may be compelled to give back once we've secured enough for ourselves.

Voted mostly bad cause we ain't shyt :shaq2:
I don't think self-interest is bad, it's neutral. Bad is wanting to do harm to others, I don't think most people are into that.
 

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mostly good, people just want to live their lives the best they can. at times, that creates conflict amongst entities as the need to provide for self can mean taking from, exploiting or harming others, but since we're hardwired for self-preservation, that's just the circle of life

I like this because this can also be providing for material need and emotional need.
 

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If we were mostly good, or even neutral, there'd be far less suffering.

We're a species driven by our own self interest even if it's at the expense of others. We may be compelled to give back once we've secured enough for ourselves.

Voted mostly bad cause we ain't shyt :shaq2:

Now we need to talk about why being driven and acting on our own self interest is bad. Who are we to tell someone else that it is bad to keeping doing what they are doing to fill their own self interest.
 

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If we were mostly good, or even neutral, there'd be far less suffering.
most of the suffering is at the hands of a few people/groups with outsized power and/or influence. then of course there are stupid people who believe they're righteous and take stuff too far - ie religious zealots.

but when you get into the average village, tribe, city, town, whatever, most people are just trying to go about their lives.
 

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Well I think it's neutral. I also believe there is truly no objectively moral right or wrong, good or bad. What is, simply is.

For example, there are two men stranded on an island with enough rations for only one man to survive until help arrives. If man A believes he should eat and survive but man B disagrees, who is right and who is wrong? It all comes down to which man is more cunning and possesses more brute strength. The man that remains is neither right or wrong, good or bad, he simply is. Objective morality removes any inexpectations in reality in a case involving multiple actors. This is not what we observe.


Nailed it :wow:
 
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