What's your stance on using Ai to create music?

[Camammal]

CAC technology has entered its critical phase. To replace the human spirit has always been the goal. I say since it’s here, use it but use it as an extension and not a replacement for your own imagination.

 

[NZA]

i dont support it if it is plagiarizing.

if it was just generated bleeps and bloops like some chip tunes with the foundation being music samples created by in-house musicians, then i might be ok with that.

 

[PS5 Pro]

i dont support it if it is plagiarizing.

if it was just generated bleeps and bloops like some chip tunes with the foundation being music samples created by in-house musicians, then i might be ok with that.

Your answer is unclear. Lets say no Ai, right. Then the subject of samples and lyrics are still possibly manipulated into a way that you wouldn't approve. So to make that the baseline isn't really saying much here. And that stems from the fact that the topic itself is unclear. When I say Ai generated music I assume most are thinking Ai made the entire song. That's not what I was asking in this thread. I'm asking Ai in terms of output. Not in terms of the creation. With that said, I'm fine with Ai beats and if you listen to anything not mainstream these days then you been listening to Ai generated music. Anything Lo-fi, or any person you see dropping instrumental after instrumental? AI did that, does that, can make me 30 beats that can sound like anything I direct it to sound. An example. I could say Make a DJ Premier late 90s style beat and hit submit. 10 seconds later I have 2 instrumentals that you never heard before. YouTube/etc does checks for copyright before you post it. Maybe someone else has but I haven't had a single issue and I posted a couple of dozen things so far with Ai music in it.

What is clear is that anybody, if they wanted to. Could create an album. And in some cases, that might be a good thing.
I'm up for the challenge, and i'll present my submission to the challenge on 12/16/25. I got some shyt that I feel needs to be out there

 

[NZA]

Your answer is unclear. Lets say no Ai, right. Then the subject of samples and lyrics are still possibly manipulated into a way that you wouldn't approve. So to make that the baseline isn't really saying much here. And that stems from the fact that the topic itself is unclear. When I say Ai generated music I assume most are thinking Ai made the entire song. That's not what I was asking in this thread. I'm asking Ai in terms of output. Not in terms of the creation. With that said, I'm fine with Ai beats and if you listen to anything not mainstream these days then you been listening to Ai generated music. Anything Lo-fi, or any person you see dropping instrumental after instrumental? AI did that, does that, can make me 30 beats that can sound like anything I direct it to sound. An example. I could say Make a DJ Premier late 90s style beat and hit submit. 10 seconds later I have 2 instrumentals that you never heard before. YouTube/etc does checks for copyright before you post it. Maybe someone else has but I haven't had a single issue and I posted a couple of dozen things so far with Ai music in it.

What is clear is that anybody, if they wanted to. Could create an album. And in some cases, that might be a good thing.
I'm up for the challenge, and i'll present my submission to the challenge on 12/16/25. I got some shyt that I feel needs to be out there

in terms of ethics, you need to clear a sample or risk getting sued. these AI companies have already done civil damage to artists who may never be able to successfully sue them. stolen samples are harmful but they also had the artistic merit of helping to create a whole new genre of music and musical conventions. so far, i cant see AI having that kind of redeeming value.

in terms of what i want to listen to: re-mix, sample, covers, or even AI generation will need to clear a higher bar to get me to listen to it. the song has got to end up very original or technically more impressive than what it comes from or is attempting to emulate. samples have made some very unique songs. some covers have better singers than the original. some remixes have better production. at this point, i cant say much good for AI as a consumer of art.

and even if AI did improve upon some technical aspect of a style of song it is copying, if the genre relies heavily on the human aspect, such as a blues singer's voice or the DIY sound of a punk band's musicianship, im going to just stick to the traditional thing.

i dont need new music enough to want to listen to solid but unremarkable AI songs in existing genres.

that being said, if people just want to use AI to make songs they want to hear, then that is good.

 

[PS5 Pro]

in terms of ethics, you need to clear a sample or risk getting sued. these AI companies have already done civil damage to artists who may never be able to successfully sue them. stolen samples are harmful but they also had the artistic merit of helping to create a whole new genre of music and musical conventions. so far, i cant see AI having that kind of redeeming value.

in terms of what i want to listen to: re-mix, sample, covers, or even AI generation will need to clear a higher bar to get me to listen to it. the song has got to end up very original or technically more impressive than what it comes from or is attempting to emulate. samples have made some very unique songs. some covers have better singers than the original. some remixes have better production. at this point, i cant say much good for AI as a consumer of art.

and even if AI did improve upon some technical aspect of a style of song it is copying, if the genre relies heavily on the human aspect, such as a blues singer's voice or the DIY sound of a punk band's musicianship, im going to just stick to the traditional thing.

i dont need new music enough to want to listen to solid but unremarkable AI songs in existing genres.

that being said, if people just want to use AI to make songs they want to hear, then that is good.

What's the difference between what you're saying here and the foundation of Hiip-Hop when it started/is still today?
Its all about remixing samples, often from Jazz/blues/etc. Then once Hiphop started making too much money is when the industry to cap a brothaz earnings began to go in on using samples. Which is still done til this day, but it has to be chopped n screwed to make it "different" which is exactly what Ai is doing

 

[NZA]

What's the difference between what you're saying here and the foundation of Hiip-Hop when it started/is still today?
Its all about remixing samples, often from Jazz/blues/etc. Then once Hiphop started making too much money is when the industry to cap a brothaz earnings began to go in on using samples. Which is still done til this day, but it has to be chopped n screwed to make it "different" which is exactly what Ai is doing

i said unauthorized sampling does harm to the original artist but it has redeeming quality because it helped create a new genre and genre conventions. AI hasnt done that yet and im not even sure if it is possible for this tech to ever make that happen. all AI is for now is derivative, unoriginal and lacking in emotional connection.

 

[PS5 Pro]

i said unauthorized sampling does harm to the original artist but it has redeeming quality because it helped create a new genre and genre conventions. AI hasnt done that yet and im not even sure if it is possible for this tech to ever make that happen. all AI is for now is derivative, unoriginal and lacking in emotional connection.

As for unoriginal, the diss songs it made on Piff and Vegeta are not terrible for a first attempt.



And lacking emotion connections?
Here's what's scary somewhat about how smart Ai is in doing exactly what you're saying it cant do.
I had a certain cadence I had in mind when I was writing. I didn't tell the Ai how to spit out what I was thinking and yet on version 2 of the song (it spits out 2 versions each time) it was damn near identical outside of a line or two said differently. The first version it was just faster and the lines didn't sound right/etc. But my point is the Ai has to pull emotion from the lyrics itself. The Ai has to essentially understand each line its singing/rapping/etc. And in doing that, it can then... translate emotion in the way that you say isn't possible. Hence...


Now if you we talking Ai outside of this subject, you would immediately concede that Ai can understand language and communicate intelligently. yah? T