When Bron was in Miami was that his prime?
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Fortunate Lee
Superstar
It was very rare for lebron to shoot poor like that, thats for damn sure.
WAS HIS BACK STILL "HURT" WHEN HE SHOT 42% IN THE 2015 PLAYOFFS?
Also, he took 27 fukkin shots per game. He NEVER attemped that many shots during his other playoff runs.
THATS MY WHOLE POINT...
THE QUALITY OF HIS TEAM WAS THE WORSE IT HAD BEEN SINCE 2010
SO HE HIS EFFICIENCY SUFFERED.
PUT HIM ON THE 05 CAVS WITH NO SHOOTERS
AND HES NOT SHOOTING ANY WHERE NEAR 54%.
42% IN HIS 07 FINALS RUN
41% THE NEXT YEAR
ajnapoleon
Veteran
who was gonna shoot those shots?
he was out rebounding tristin back then also
why is the "iron man" of the cavs not leading the team in mins
Fortunate Lee
Superstar
Nah the bad teammates thing is a legit point breh, but you are forgettin that 05 Bron is not close to 15 version of lebron. He just had a shytty reg season, he still had Love and Kyrie around him.
THATS MY WHOLE POINT...
THE QUALITY OF HIS TEAM WAS THE WORSE IT HAD BEEN SINCE 2010
SO HE HIS EFFICIENCY SUFFERED.
PUT HIM ON THE 05 CAVS WITH NO SHOOTERS
AND HES NOT SHOOTING ANY WHERE NEAR 54%.
05 Bron wouldve got swept by the warriors..just like 07.
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
the back problems of the 2014-2015 season were real
LeBron James: "I apologize I haven't been above the rim"
LeBron James: "I apologize I haven't been above the rim"
I DIDNT SAY HE WAS BETTER IN 05...
IM SAYING HE WOULDNT BE PUTTING UP THESE NUMBERS IN 05.
HAVING THE BEST TEAMS
AND NOW 2ND BEST TEAM IN THE NBA HAVE ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE "3 PRIMES"
WHEN HIS TEAMS ARENT LOADED
IT SHOWS IN HIS NUMBERS.
42% IN 07 FINALS RUN
41% IN 08
42% IN 2015
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
Fortunate Lee
Superstar
Bron got better as a player as well..his FG% went up every year since 07. Even MJ had shytty years shooting the ball in the playoffs..it happens sometimes.
I DIDNT SAY HE WAS BETTER IN 05...
IM SAYING HE WOULDNT BE PUTTING UP THESE NUMBERS IN 05.
HAVING THE BEST TEAMS
AND NOW 2ND BEST TEAM IN THE NBA HAVE ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE "3 PRIMES"
WHEN HIS TEAMS ARENT LOADED
IT SHOWS IN HIS NUMBERS.
42% IN 07 FINALS RUN
41% IN 08
42% IN 2015
Of course he wouldnt put up these numbers in 05..he was a worse and younger player then lol
HIS TEAMS CONTINUED TO GET BETTER EACH YEAR SINCE 07.WHAT A COINCIDENCE...
THATS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 05 CAVS.
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
the modern lebron would put up those numbers in 2005, not the 2005 version of lebron
no, him getting better and expanding his game is what allowed him to have "3 primes"
Over the years, James has attempted thousands of field goals, but those shots are going in at much higher rates recently. In James’s rookie year he shot 42 percent from the field and 29 percent from beyond the arc. This year those numbers are 56 percent and 39 percent, respectively. There are two reasons for that substantial improvement in his field goal percentage: (1) He’s a much better shooter now, and (2) also a larger share of his shots are close to the basket now.
James won the NBA MVP in each of his last two seasons in Cleveland. He was a great player then, but the Cavs used James as more of an on-ball point forward. Then-Cavs coach Mike Brown was often criticized for his simplistic offensive sets, which involved James handling the ball and little else. Brown — who failed to engineer an offense that optimized LeBron — was often derided as “the only coach in the NBA who could stop LeBron James.” That may be unfair, but those teams failed to win a title, and when you compare his shooting patterns in Cleveland to his patterns in Miami, there are striking differences. Some of these differences have to do with changing teammates or shifting strategies, and the maturation of the player. But, no matter how you slice it, the changes are profound.
In James’s last season in Cleveland his shot chart resembles that of a point guard. His clusters of shooting activity are similar to those of Kyrie Irving or Chris Paul. James was very active in front of the basket and along both wings, where his game featured a lot of off-the-dribble 3s and long 2s. Although he shot 50 percent from the field, there was virtually no post game, and aside from a cluster at the rim, there wasn’t much activity close to the basket. He was perimeter-oriented.
Lost in the hubbub of James’s signing with Miami were the strategic implications of integrating the league’s reigning MVP into an organization with different leadership, different philosophies, and superstar teammates. James was already the NBA’s Swiss Army knife — but the Cavaliers coaching staff only knew how to utilize the bottle opener. Before he landed in Miami, the Heat coaching staff was already hard at work engineering stratagems that would optimize James’s unique skill set. One thing was clear: He would handle the ball less and assume a less central role on the court.
In his first year in a Heat uniform, James took fewer 3s and was much more active in the paint, but he was still spending a lot of time away from the basket. His early Miami patterns were similar to his Cleveland patterns: no hint of a post game; too many long 2s; his game was still too perimeter-oriented. And after losing the 2011 NBA Finals, James and coach Erik Spoelstra were more determined than ever to tweak their offensive approach.
According to Spoelstra, “It took the ultimate failure in the Finals to view LeBron and our offense with a different lens. He was the most versatile player in the league. We had to figure out a way to use him in the most versatile of ways — in unconventional ways. It seems like a ‘duh’ moment now, but we had to go through the experiences and failures together.”
In the last game of the 2011 Finals, James was almost listlessly loitering beyond the arc, hesitating, shying away, and failing to take advantage of his freakish stature. His last shot of those Finals was symbolic: an ill-fated 25-foot jump shot from the outskirts of the right wing — his favorite 3-point shot location that season. The next morning, newspapers and blogs didn’t forget to remind us that James wasn’t a clutch player. Although few would admit to it now, countless media personalities took the opportunity to opine that LeBron James simply didn’t have “what it takes” to win championships in this league.
But something was about to change.
That loss, and maybe some of those demeaning characterizations, fueled one of the greatest and most important transformations in recent sports history. James was distraught, but somehow channeled that into ferocious dedication to his craft. Spoelstra was perplexed and desperate to correct course; he told me, “Shortly after our loss to Dallas in the Finals, LeBron and I met. He mentioned that he was going to work on his game relentlessly during the offseason, and specifically on his post-up game. This absolutely made sense for us. We had to improve offensively, and one of the best ways would be to be able to play inside-out with a post-up attack.”
The Evolution of King James
young lebron isn't the same as 2009 to present lebron
see above and
when modern lebron was born
42% IN 2015
bad back as I already explained..he wasn't his highly eff self even when kyrie and love played
Fortunate Lee
Superstar
Well ... thats the fukkin point aint it lol
WHAT A COINCIDENCE...
THATS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 05 CAVS.
Let me get this right tho..youre saying CURRENT lebron wouldnt put up similair numbers in 05?
Well ... thats the fukkin point aint it lol
Let me get this right tho..youre saying CURRENT lebron wouldnt put up similair numbers in 05?
I SAID MULTIPLE TIMES
CURRENT BRON WOULDNT COME CLOSE TO SHOOTING 54% IN 05.