when did hip hop jumped the shark?

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Somewhere between Horrorcore and the Shiny Suit era

 

[TheRtist]

Somewhere between Horrorcore and the Shiny Suit era

Classics came in both of those eras

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Classics came in both of those eras

i agree, but thats when rap became less believable. im not saying i disliked either era. i got into hiphop during the shiny suit era...but i feel like after that no one had credibility anymore

 

[Kingshango]

Right around the ringtone rap era.

 

[Love Sosa]

Depends on who you're talking to. People thought it jumped the shark when gangsta rap became popular. Then they thought it jumped the shark when Pac and Big died. Then when No Limit and Bad boy were huge. Then when G-Unit got big. Then when the south took over. Then when Soulja Boy got big. It's people that think it jumped the shark in 2014. No real answer

 

[Shadow King]

I think it happened around the Souja Boy time period. But I don't think hip hop is dead at all.

after wayne where people emulated him and thought being on drugs made you dope


now we just have clones of untalented people on drugs doing the most not realizing you have to actually be dope first


you cant just drop acid and be jimi hendrix ... people trying to take the easy way out exposing themselves

When everyone decided they wanted to be wayne and gucci. I mean it kinda is a step up from the ringtone/snap era (d4l, soulja, etc), but these clones all sound the same now.

All of these really.

 

[Blessup]

When it lost the muslim/5%/NOI/rasta/pan african influence and teachings.

 

[Greenhornet]

fans honestly ruined everything ... everytime for anything

fans opinions hold too much weight, because they have to obviously
but fans have no idea what the fukk they are doing


so they could hear mozart and be like ok cool
then some random dude could play one song on piano and they could praise him over a real virtuoso

people that have no idea what they are doing are in control of whats cool

 

[KravenMorehead™]

There was no lynchpin moment. It's a slow, almost negligible gradient of change per year. That's how europeans work.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Quality fluctuated for a long time for a while. When the supposed too mainstream rappers started to be sub par quality suffered. Drake being a so called rapper and quite a big artist wad a huge decline mainstream wise from where shot should be. A trash fraud artist, but before that there was artists that were big mainstream wise that shouldn't have been in that spot, and even prior artists who dumbed down their shyt too much or compromised too much. When Nas and Jay were both quite mainstream and at a good level there was at least some depth in quality there. But when Biggie, Pac etc were around that was an overload in a good way, when you look at all two or artists then that were doing very well it was very dope.

 

[jackson35]

okay to be more specific, when did hip hop lost it fire with all of you as buying the music, watching the videos, going to the shows?

 

[HustlerOfVirginiA]

After I negged you