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When Did You Realize Hip Hop Was Dead?
- Thread starter bogey_j
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2008... the little wayne hype
Gave hip hop up
Gave hip hop up
True. But you've yet to explain your position. I know people who got into rap in 1976 that loved DMX. And unlike most of the Coli here, I don't dikkride my era. I've gone back to understand what was great or not so great about the eras prior to me. Mase may have been jiggy bullshyt but dude could still rap well in 1997.
Jeezy blowing up in 2005 is not the same thing. Dude COULD NOT rap.
I honestly thought you were going to say Puffy. That "No Way Out" selling a blistering amount of copies did it for a couple OGs I know.
criminology
hearse initiator
Hip hop is still alive. Alive like a zombie I guess but still alive in a sense.
The problem is music hasn't evolved as much as it should have in 20 years. 1955 to 1975 was a HUGE leap in music. 1975 to 1995 same thing. You play OB4CL in 1975 and itd be incomprehensible. But if you play stuff from now in 1995 it would largely make sense. A little more electronic but in a lot of circles house and electronic music were already on the rise. Hip hop is alive but like a tortoise or some shyt. Didn't evolve the way it should have in 20 years.
The problem is music hasn't evolved as much as it should have in 20 years. 1955 to 1975 was a HUGE leap in music. 1975 to 1995 same thing. You play OB4CL in 1975 and itd be incomprehensible. But if you play stuff from now in 1995 it would largely make sense. A little more electronic but in a lot of circles house and electronic music were already on the rise. Hip hop is alive but like a tortoise or some shyt. Didn't evolve the way it should have in 20 years.
Big Mel
@bigboss
First off, Jeezy can rap. He's an LCD genius in a way. But that's barely interesting enough to discuss.
A lot of context is lost as time wears on. DMX's sound, the literal sense of the word, was so far removed from anything I'd known as Irrefutably funky or groove based. It squelched out the funk and was kinda like post Ice Cube NWA offensive in super nikkadom terms.
But he's just the obvious target in 1998.
Wu Tang were in disarray
Boot Camp were Beatminer-less
Tribe fell off/broke up
Nas was awful
Goofy backpack rap was the rage
That southern bullshyt was hot
Nyc was mostly dudes trying to sound like jay z or mase
Ya girl Missy was deemed a genius with her trash self
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all great points, but look at what else came out in 1998:
Moment of Truth
Docs Da Name
Mos Def & Talib Are Blackstar
Hard Knock Life
Miseducation
Capital Punishment
Soul Survivor
First Family 4 Life
Extinction Level Event
Dark and Hell is Hot
most aren't perfect albums, but all have SUPERB songs that we still give a fukk about. and these weren't some nerdy backpack releases either.
if you think hip hop died in 98, I don't know how you got through the 2000s to be honest. We're at the point where a rapper can't create a single memorable song on an entire album. and it's been that way for a decade.
wave was too strong for you breh
Underrated post
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soundin like a young boy who don't know shyt about the genre
Whitty Hutton
these posters are TRASH
Even the differences in a 5 year span of 90-95, 95-00 are glaring. But if you look back and listen to something from this era you wouldn't be able to tell 2010 from 2015
infamousred
All Star
I've already talked about who was involved with killing it so that's pointless to talk about now but what is important is how you know that its dead? Go make a thread about a universal classic album and see how many replies it gets within a few hours. Next go find one of the newly posted gossip threads and see how many more responses that thread has gotten within half the time. These brain dead motherfickers are more enamored by their favorite rappers daily lives than the actual quality of the music. A couple rappers can't ressurect something while the rest of the sheep dance around the rotting corpse.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
when wack lyrics and music got a pass becaused it either sold alot of records or u was afraid of being looked as a " hater"
when in the 80's and 90s for the most part if u were trash u were trash and nobody cared about sales or being looked as a hater.
when in the 80's and 90s for the most part if u were trash u were trash and nobody cared about sales or being looked as a hater.