When did you realize that music wouldn't be your career & just a passion/hobby?

[Shadow King]

I've been struggling with this a lot lately over the past year, knowing I have talent but seeing the game for what it is and especially where someone like me would fit in it. I been feeling old and young at the same damn time. I'm not that old but in the 3-5 years it actually takes to be somebody I will be. Older (and some young if you had this experience) brehs could you share the tipping point for you when you were in a similar space and how you were able to keep your fire for music lit.

 

[KangCraSS]

My question to you is what's making it ? I've gotten better and more opportunities have come as I've gotten older. Granted a nikka is far from rich off of music . But I can maintain a decent check with licensing and leasing . You just have to explore other avenues breh.

 

[Shadow King]

My question to you is what's making it ? I've gotten better and more opportunities have come as I've gotten older. Granted a nikka is far from rich off of music . But I can maintain a decent check with licensing and leasing . You just have to explore other avenues breh.

What I envisioned when I said I want to do this for a living 7 years ago was being one of the biggest. But I was in high school then...ignorance was bliss then, as I could blindly believe. Now that I see where the game is going, it's almost like...why?

The craziest part is most artists feel how I feel when their identity is lost. My shyt is found. If I were to make another tape (my 4th) I know EXACTLY what I want to talk about. But to me it's polar to the tastes of the audience in my very own age range (I'm 23) and who I'm supposed to "connect" with.

I could fill our phone screens with how I really about the game right now lol but in short, I still believe in myself, I don't believe in people. All the perennial gold & platinum aspirations are gone. Honestly I want to get justtttttt big enough to shake Hollywood hands and get my Will Smith/Childish Gambino on. Music is truthfully my second love anyway.

 

[KangCraSS]

What I envisioned when I said I want to do this for a living 7 years ago was being one of the biggest. But I was in high school then...ignorance was bliss then, as I could blindly believe. Now that I see where the game is going, it's almost like...why?

The craziest part is most artists feel how I feel when their identity is lost. My shyt is found. If I were to make another tape (my 4th) I know EXACTLY what I want to talk about. But to me it's polar to the tastes of the audience in my very own age range (I'm 23) and who I'm supposed to "connect" with.

I could fill our phone screens with how I really about the game right now lol but in short, I still believe in myself, I don't believe in people. All the perennial gold & platinum aspirations are gone. Honestly I want to get justtttttt big enough to shake Hollywood hands and get my Will Smith/Childish Gambino on. Music is truthfully my second love anyway.

I here you fam , hip hop has become a parody and pejorative . Social media is a gift and a curse honestly . I'd love to hear your music though ...

 

[Shadow King]

I here you fam , hip hop has become a parody and pejorative . Social media is a gift and a curse honestly . I'd love to hear your music though ...

Doc Pro New Songs & Albums | Audiomack
Those are my first two project, I was 17 and 18. The first one I did in my school's computer room, no mic, just rapping to a Mac screen made all the beats except 3-5. The second was a birthday gift to myself and I almost didn't put out because of how personal I felt it was, friends would've had to ask me for it but I was convinced otherwise. I rushed it and can tell.

DatPiff Mobile that was the last one I did, I was 19 when I wrote most of it, finished it at 20, didn't get to drop it till I was 21. There's no song structure here I took a No Ceilings route rapping for rapping. Tape 4 would have much more content and structure in common with 1 and 2.

If you're not tryna hear me for an extended sitting lol these are loose tracks Doc Pro

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

I realized a music career wasn't for me cause i wasn't born with a real musical gift naturally.
I really had to learn for it.
Some people it just comes to them naturally. They are born with an ear for it while i had to train really hard to make something decent.

 

[Shadow King]

I realized a music career wasn't for me cause i wasn't born with a real musical gift naturally.
I really had to learn for it.
Some people it just comes to them naturally. They are born with an ear for it while i had to train really hard to make something decent.

Where are you at with it now breh?

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Where are you at with it now breh?

I think i'm pretty good these days but it took me years to do it.

 

[producingfire]

I've been struggling with this a lot lately over the past year, knowing I have talent but seeing the game for what it is and especially where someone like me would fit in it. I been feeling old and young at the same damn time. I'm not that old but in the 3-5 years it actually takes to be somebody I will be. Older (and some young if you had this experience) brehs could you share the tipping point for you when you were in a similar space and how you were able to keep your fire for music lit.

I know its difficult as one gets older to peruse it, but there is always a way bro. One person doesn't have to be a certain way to make it in the game now. Nor do they need Label support. Don't get me wrong it definitely helps. but lets suppose you had a fanbase in the neighborhood of 2000 people and they gave you $100 that is is $200,00 It does take time to build. That's why a lot of people have other jobs until things get built the way they need them to be. By all means don't give up if it's something you really want.

 

[Why-Fi]

i left home super young to pursue the dream but i started seeing and feeling how desperate the environment is...went back home and got back into school instead

 

[Shadow King]

I think i'm pretty good these days but it took me years to do it.

Where it's at breh where the sounds?

I know its difficult as one gets older to peruse it, but there is always a way bro. One person doesn't have to be a certain way to make it in the game now. Nor do they need Label support. Don't get me wrong it definitely helps. but lets suppose you had a fanbase in the neighborhood of 2000 people and they gave you $100 that is is $200,00 It does take time to build. That's why a lot of people have other jobs until things get built the way they need them to be. By all means don't give up if it's something you really want.

I be trying to keep the positive voices in my head on 100 and the negatives on 0 but the nikkas the young crowd buzz for discourage a breh like I got nothing to offer these nikkas.

I'ma just make this next tape for me breh. No radio reaching, no club tracks unless it's a mock record/hidden message, the couple of girl tracks will be serious not no fluffy "you so fine" shyt. I'm part of a clique anyway so I can let them do what's hot.

i left home super young to pursue the dream but i started seeing and feeling how desperate the environment is...went back home and got back into school instead

How deep in the game did you get?

 

[IShotTheSheriff]

I've been struggling with this a lot lately over the past year, knowing I have talent but seeing the game for what it is and especially where someone like me would fit in it. I been feeling old and young at the same damn time. I'm not that old but in the 3-5 years it actually takes to be somebody I will be. Older (and some young if you had this experience) brehs could you share the tipping point for you when you were in a similar space and how you were able to keep your fire for music lit.

Death is not the end, the loss of conviction is.

Not everyone has to be Kanye in popularity to make some good profit from music, there's definitely room for everyone man. My man Lil B found a way, you can too. Currensy kept at it, he's got a huge underground following. This is coming from someone going through the same thing brother, it's almost as if I'm encouraging myself as well by typing this out to you...

If it's truly your passion, make your money doing whatever work you're already doing and use your free time to make your passions profitable as well my friend. Good luck.

 

[Propaganda]

if it's really your dream, you just gotta keep getting better at your craft, learn how to get your shyt out there so people can hear it, network, etc. you might never be mikewillmadeit or whoever...being a big-name producer probably won't be where you end up but you can find a lane. it definitely might not be what you were looking for when you started out though. i know a guy who's production i loved but never went anywhere with it - he write jingles for a living now, i know a guy who just does little interludes for tv and shyt, i know plenty of guys who were in bands trying to be rock stars and shyt and now are basically professional session players...whatever. it's not what any of those guys really set out to be when they were young and hoping to blow up but hey, music is still their job. music is what pays the bills.

and imo, until it pays the bills, whatever "it" is, it's a hobby. so until you can support yourself, have a paying job and a plan b.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

The problem is that a lot of people think they will get discovered from their bedroom.

Making it in music is as much politics and good business as it is talent.

i think the main factor in making it is having a solid team around you. Not only for what they can do for you but to also to keep you focused and head check. A lot of artists get way too into their heads, become delusional about their talent, and get frustrated when things don't go their way.

I don't make music but I do a lot of photography/creative direction for the labels so I got the chance to see how things work up close.


Anyways I say never give up, you're one retweet away from fame.

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Where it's at breh where the sounds?

I personally think this is pretty good.