When I watch Giannis play, I dont see a 2x MVP at age 25

[UserNameless]

He came into the league as a non-top-10 pick and worked his way up to top 5 player status. Humble and hardworking all the way. I don't understand the accusations of not working on his game, or the overall hate for the player.

I want to think it's not motivated by some pseudo-militant bullshyt but you never know with this place.

Yeah all the hype that has been placed on him , he never really seemed to embrace it or invite it or let it get to his head too much . I fux with that .

Wish him the best . I’m reasonably certain he is — and has always been — keenly aware of his limitations.

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

Time for Giannis to level up this summer with a real jump shot and serviceable post moves.

This gets said every year. it’s not happening

 

[1thouwow]

Yeah, that's the problem.

No player is multi-dimensional enough to compensate for a #2's lack of talent and win. Giannis has plenty of weaknesses but in the right environment he's as dominant as any great.

We've seen this same story throughout NBA history.

I’ve found the Giannis Stan

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Young Lebron was a more complete player but I like how y’all conveniently forget what it took for even Lebron to break through and win. Yet your expecting Giannis to win with Middleton as his running mate in a league where multiple top 10 players team up

At least Giannis is getting eliminated by Kawhi and KD and teams with bonafide dawgs. And not like Dwight Howard

 

[ISO]

Y’all really gotta stop discrediting nikkas.

The Nets are a G.O.A.T. team they recorded the highest offensive rating in NBA history this year. This is a very tough opponent for Giannis. He’s an underdog in this series.

Giannis has his limitations but his team is doing him no favors shooting below 25% from 3 through the first two games.

 

[Cᵣₐₛₕ&ₜₕₑCₒᵤₚ]

Seriously though Giannis is not a perimeter player and shouldn't be judged as such. He's a 4 that likes to do locomotive drives to the paint at the top of the arc too much. Dude needs a coach that'll keep him in motion, constantly doing p&rs in a position to finish. F*** a jumpshot that isn't a set 3, dude needs to watch 2012-2013 LeBron highlights and study the areas he dominated.​

 

[NoMorePie]

Giannis is a 2nd or 3rd option in the playoffs the way he's been coached. I'm sure other coaches would play him in the post. One good strong dribble in a post up and he's feet away from the basket. Treat him as a big

I think someone mentioned here a while back that he was a decent shooter in his early years but he still kept growing and didn't adapt to the change

 

[WaveMolecules]

The new David Robinson.

gets stats but ain’t winning shyt. Needs a Timmy

 

[murksiderock]

And it's funny too because I ain't even a Bron stan like that. I acknowledge the flaws in his game. I still feel his post game isn't as great as it should be for a 6'9 forward. His handles and ability to create a shot are little bit stiff (but it's understandable given his leg size ())

But the way people lazily just throw around stupid arguments is pathetic

I'm absolutely a Bron Stan but an objective one, I'm not of the idea that he deserves no criticism or has no weaknesses. But I give all superstars that same standard of judgment...

I’m still waiting for Giannis to show a fraction of the skill of a 22 year old Bron

I dont like when people call Giannis "unskilled" because you can't do what he does well, without skill...

But in comparison to Young Bron, Giannis not taking dudes off the dribble, doesn't have a hesitation dribble in his bag, isn't quite as nimbly-footed, doesn't have the pull up in his bag or a release as quick as Bron's, etc. Giannis is skilled but the Bron comps are retarded because there is way too many areas of basketball skill where Bron at the same age was flat out better...

Bron's 8th year was 2011. Literally go thru every year of both, from Y1 to Y8, there is no point at the same stage Giannis was better and honestly most years its not even close, Bron was an entirely different player than Giannis and was in an entirely different stratosphere...

Y’all really gotta stop discrediting nikkas.

The Nets are a G.O.A.T. team they recorded the highest offensive rating in NBA history this year. This is a very tough opponent for Giannis. He’s an underdog in this series.

Giannis has his limitations but his team is doing him no favors shooting below 25% from 3 through the first two games.

I support where you're coming from but Giannis gotta eat some of this and its not about discrediting him:

•why is he settling for threes and long twos against an undersized opposing front line?

•why does his finishing that is uber-elite in the regular season, take a hefty step down against elite competition, postseason after postseason?

•why is his already poor free throw shooting getting substantially worse in the playoffs?

•why does he always have this "deer in headlights" look when his team is getting run? Where is that regular season intensity?

•why won't he put his foot down and take the Durant assignment when Durant is heating up, instead of leaving poor Jrue to get carved up? Why won't he put his foot down with Bud on playing every minute required because his team's fate depends on it? Where is his assertiveness, why the fukk is he so passive?

.........

I mean I can keep going but come on, g. Dude has to hold his accountability in the Bucks annual playoff free fall. Its not about discrediting him, and while his team isn't giving him yhe best to work with, where is HIS big performances to energize his squad and rally the troops?

When is Giannis gonna have that "I'm here" moment that all players with his trophy collection have?

Why exclude him from criticism when other players of his assumed caliber (ahem, David Robinson) didn't get these passes?

 

[Raw Lyrics]

Duncan won 5 titles at PF

Duncan played a lot of Center too, the PF stuck with him after D Rob left. But he was putting it on Centers often, as well as defending them.

 

[lib123]

Harden thoughts on him were accurate

 

[MoneyTron]

I’ve found the Giannis Stan

A Giannis stan? Please go back through my post history and try again.

 

[MoneyTron]

Giannis is in his 8th year in The League. The comps to Bron were always off base and outta touch, as while LeBron didn't exclusively operate out the post nor was a deadeye shooter, he always could shoot and had a substantially more refined game than Giannis at every mile marker...

The idea that Bron couldn't shoot or create in the half court was always crazy overblown...

Giannis is worse on every point and the shifting of blame to Middleton is convenient for a guy who been racking up trophies the last couple years. Middleton probably is better suited as a third option but Bron with no one on Middleton's level led a Finals run in Y4 and showed he could knock down shots when needed...

I'm not making a direct comparison to LeBron. I'm saying that people act like these players are horribly flawed until they are teamed with a player that complements them.

You Bron stans gotta stop being so defensive.

Kobe - selfish

Jordan - selfish

Bron - can't shoot, no post game

Shaq - can't hit FTs, lazy

KD - too weak

It goes on and on. Giannis might never be able to "shoot". I don't think that's going to stop him from winning if he has a great PnR player next to him.

He's only 26 and clearly can dominate a game in many different aspects. We'll see if he continues to improve.

 

[Conan]

As late as last year before he joined the Nets, people on here were calling Harden a gimmick player. I wonder what changed.

 

[MoneyTron]

As late as last year before he joined the Nets, people on here were calling Harden a gimmick player. I wonder what changed.

I don't see how people aren't seeing the patterns here. Almost every MVP-level player has some glaring weakness the media and/or fans felt like would stop them from winning for the rest of their careers. Myself included.

I'm convinced that's not the case now. The only thing stopping MVP-level players from winning is not being on a good enough team to do so. There isn't a modern championship winning superstar that didn't have their weaknesses complemented by the team in someway outside of maybe Tim Duncan.