I cant speak on it...but post some proof
fyi i thought you meant better production period not just dark shyt.
but Havoc is not just decent. he is legendary ..anybody with sense or decent taste knows this
When it comes to "evil sounding beats" Mobb Deep are GOAT
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fyi i thought you meant better production period not just dark shyt.
but Havoc is not just decent. he is legendary ..anybody with sense or decent taste knows this
The mobb deep sound represents the essence of 90's east coast sound. Like a snap shot of time listening to the infamous.
Slightly off topic but I personally would prefer to listen to a hard beat and have a decent rapper on it than a poor beat with the best lyrics you've ever heard.
When you hit that that 50/50 split with beat and lyrics it's the sweet spot.
Slightly off topic but I personally would prefer to listen to a hard beat and have a decent rapper on it than a poor beat with the best lyrics you've ever heard.
When you hit that that 50/50 split with beat and lyrics it's the sweet spot.
Scarface and Bushwick Bill, Geto Boys have some 
beats so how you gonna leave them out in this thread @smokeurobinson ?
beats so how you gonna leave them out in this thread @smokeurobinson ?
I gotta shout out Brotha Lynch Hung,and Bone Thugs of course
In some circles yeah...others nah...just like Squeeky is a legend in alot of circles...and his name didn't ring any bells in others.
Squeeky is so revered in his circles...he's still working with top artists today even though he's been in the game for a good 25+ years...you can count the # of producers on one hand that can say that...contributed to giving 8ball & MJG their early buzz...and helped pioneer a few production techniques that practically everybody in the game uses today...
and in 2016 he's still dropping heat with some of the top guys in the south.
shyt...he's been in WAY more in demand than DJ Paul the past 7-8 years or so...and he came before Paul and helped birth Paul AND Juice....he's been a hotter go to name for production in recent years without having any of the commercial viability or mainstream name recognition that they had...
Before Dolph he worked with Gotti, Jeezy, Gucci/Brickquad & 2Chains on the regular...and before that Pastor Troy in the early to mid 2000's.
Top 5 all-time in book...when it comes to impact, legacy, influence & catalog...Havoc is nowhere close...
There's just nothing extraordinary about Havoc's production to me
His work on the Infamous was tuff...
but HOE
everybody i named made better beats than Havoc in their prime
In some circles yeah...others nah...just like Squeeky is a legend in alot of circles...and his name didn't ring any bells in others.
Squeeky is so revered in his circles...he's still working with top artists today even though he's been in the game for a good 25+ years...you can count the # of producers on one hand that can say that...contributed to giving 8ball & MJG their early buzz...and helped pioneer a few production techniques that practically everybody in the game uses today...
and in 2016 he's still dropping heat with some of the top guys in the south.
shyt...he's been in WAY more in demand than DJ Paul the past 7-8 years or so...and he came before Paul and helped birth Paul AND Juice....he's been a hotter go to name for production in recent years without having any of the commercial viability or mainstream name recognition that they had...
Before Dolph he worked with Gotti, Jeezy, Gucci/Brickquad & 2Chains on the regular...and before that Pastor Troy in the early to mid 2000's.
Top 5 all-time in book...when it comes to impact, legacy, influence & catalog...Havoc is nowhere close...
There's just nothing extraordinary about Havoc's production to me
His work on the Infamous was tuff...
but HOE
everybody i named made better beats than Havoc in their prime
this new shyt is mediocre.
show me his prime shyt. acting like havoc didnt just have a beat on kanye wests new album.
havoc is one of those influential produers you speakof
Eminem
No doubt, even Group Home 2nd album had that dark sound...
I also remember arsonists as well....
