When it rains it pours, ask Lance Armstrong

[Turenne]

true true....i also read that some of his cancer medications(steroid based) may have had "performance enchancing" side effects

@ 'steroid based' - long distance cyclists take EPO (and yes, I know you have no idea what EPO is because you don't know the first thing about pro cycling), not fukking steroids. This isn't weightlifting.

 

[Liu Kang]

i thought they didnt have proof. they kept testing him and it came up negative and he said "fukk it" im not doing these tests no more and thats when they feelings got hurt


if that is the case, fukk them.

Link : USADA releases massive evidence vs. Lance Armstrong

PDF (202 pages) : the USADA whole case against L.A.

 

[Turenne]

i thought they didnt have proof. they kept testing him and it came up negative and he said "fukk it" im not doing these tests no more and thats when they feelings got hurt


if that is the case, fukk them.

...do you know how many pro-cyclists that were doping came up 'negative'? Thousands hundreds of times. You had to be literally retarded to get done for doping in the 90s and 00s.

And they just released a dossier brimming full of fukking proof - pay attention.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Dey lightin his ass up.

 

[muse]

Link : USADA releases massive evidence vs. Lance Armstrong

PDF (202 pages) : the USADA whole case against L.A.

honestly, i really dont care but do they have actual evidence or not? eye witnesses. ok. but do they have failed drug tests? im not reading 202 pages. thanks for the link. but if all they have is people saying "he failed drug tests and so and so covered it up" do they actually have the failed drug tests because the last paragraph says

"He maintained his innocence, saying he never failed a drug test. USADA noted that Armstrong's team used sophisticated techniques to avoid testing positive and that there is no test for blood transfusions."

the most damaging thing in the article is
"USADA said the evidence includes "direct documentary evidence including financial payments, emails, scientific data and laboratory test results that further prove the use, possession and distribution of performance enhancing drugs by Lance Armstrong"

but they dont talk about that. they talk about those "witnesses". the main one being someone that knew him personally. im sorry, but people are scum so i'd rather see some failed tests

 

[Liu Kang]

honestly, i really dont care but do they have actual evidence or not? eye witnesses. ok. but do they have failed drug tests? im not reading 202 pages. thanks for the link. but if all they have is people saying "he failed drug tests and so and so covered it up" do they actually have the failed drug tests because the last paragraph says

"He maintained his innocence, saying he never failed a drug test. USADA noted that Armstrong's team used sophisticated techniques to avoid testing positive and that there is no test for blood transfusions."

the most damaging thing in the article is
"USADA said the evidence includes "direct documentary evidence including financial payments, emails, scientific data and laboratory test results that further prove the use, possession and distribution of performance enhancing drugs by Lance Armstrong"

but they dont talk about that. they talk about those "witnesses". the main one being someone that knew him personally. im sorry, but people are scum so i'd rather see some failed tests

Tests are A+ evidence, we agree.
But when his whole team back then got caught somehow then snitched on him, his boss is highly suspicious and suspected of doping practices along every team he has ran, his doctor has been caught, his nurse snitched on him, there are proof that he basically bribed the Union (150K), that he had close acquintances with suspect labs... Then you realize that he was THE BEST ever but the only one clean ? Ulrich, Basso, Vinokourov, Contador, Mayo... all got caught and he was better than them by miles !
Come on, don't be naive : everybody doped, he was not the only one. It was just a matter of time.

 

[Turenne]

Dude you are debating with people that don't know the first fukking thing about pro cycling. Do you think he has the slightest clue who Berto and Vino are? Do you think he knows how easy and widespread it was to dope and get away with it?

As if a score of detailed eyewitness accounts and huge amounts of money transfers to the most notorious doping doctor in the sport aren't enough?

 

[Soundbwoy]

 

[muse]

Tests are A+ evidence, we agree.
But when his whole team back then got caught somehow then snitched on him, his boss is highly suspicious and suspected of doping practices along every team he has ran, his doctor has been caught, his nurse snitched on him, there are proof that he basically bribed the Union (150K), that he had close acquintances with suspect labs... Then you realize that he was THE BEST ever but the only one clean ? Ulrich, Basso, Vinokourov, Contador, Mayo... all got caught and he was better than them by miles !
Come on, don't be naive : everybody doped, he was not the only one. It was just a matter of time.

you right

i just believe people can do some extraordinary ass shyt with nothing but them, even if they are against the odds

if he can or if he cant whatever.

 

[The Dogg]

when it comes crashing down and it hurts inside.....

 

[unit321]

They've already updated the Wiki page.
Tour de France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He won seven times and that's a lot of money for each win. For the second place winners, I guess they will be awarded first place after the fact? If I came in second in any of those seven Tour de France races, I would want the cash. It's like a half-mil after you convert it from Euros to US dollars.