when men make this pose what do you think it means ? :

BlackDiBiase

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I'm wit the shyts :ufdup:

still iffy.

All the family in order
Sat before him for their pictures:
Each in turn, as he was taken,
Volunteered his own suggestions,
His ingenious suggestions.

First the Governor, the Father:
He suggested velvet curtains
looped about a massy pillar;
And the corner of a table,
Of a rosewood dining-table.
He would hold a scroll of something,
Hold it firmly in his left-hand;
He would keep his right-hand buried
(Like Napoleon) in his waistcoat;

He would contemplate the distance
With a look of pensive meaning,
As of ducks that die in tempests.
Grand, heroic was the notion:
Yet the picture failed entirely:
Failed, because he moved a little,
Moved, because he couldn't help it.

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-Lewis Carroll, 1887

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In the full compass of its eighteenth-century usage, the hand-in-waistcoat portrait allowed for a number of formal variables: from a half to a full-length format, either seated or standing, the setting either landscape or interior, the figure oriented toward the left or right, and with either the left or the fight hand masked. Commonly, the right hand is inserted, although many examples show the left inserted instead. However, when the figure is depicted holding a hat, the image complies with prevailing social etiquette, which dictated that the hat be in the right hand. When the hat is shown placed under the left arm, either the right or the left hand might be inserted.(30) That these permutations of the form allowed ample latitude for individual characterization is readily seen by comparing Gainsborough's poetic self-portrait with Hudson's dour depiction of Handel. However, it should also be noted that in the broader context of eighteenth-century usage the pose was by no means exclusive to English painters, nor was it reserved for depicting English sitters. It was on occasion employed by the Lombard Ceruti, the Venetian provincial Manzini, the Swiss Liotard, the French pastelliste Perroneau, the Spaniard Goya, the Russian Leviatskii, and by many other Continental painters. But it is the ubiquitous success of the format in England that needs an explanation.

At this point an important distinction should be made between the "hand-in-waistcoat" attitude in portraiture and its use in social life, since the postural patterns of portraits are far more limited than conventions of deportment. Pictorial satire is perhaps the ideal benchmark of the gesture's widespread and immoderate social use, since the genre of satire is not an autonomous form but a response to real behavior. In particular, foreign travelers abroad, whose graceless social profile was a steady target in this heyday of the Grand Tour, were often burlesqued by means of a strained and uneasy version of the "hand-in" posture. It is seen in Thomas Patch's witty depictions of his fellow countrymen in Italy, typically in gatherings of virtuosi at the home of Sir Horace Mann, the English ambassador in Florence , (in the left foreground and in the portrait on the wall).(31) It is even more vigorously exaggerated by Pier Leoni Ghezzi, who apparently considered it the posture of choice for caricatures of visitors to Rome .(32)
The most incisive satirical depiction, however, is on English soil, by Hogarth in The Countess's Levee, the fourth scene from his Marriage a la Mode series .(33) Here Hogarth uses the "hand-in" gesture to portray two national types: one a dignified English magistrate (depicted in a portrait on the wall) and the other a foppish French dancing master. The pairing of a decorous painting above with a comic figure below ironically distinguishes between an attitude in a portrait and the notion of social posturing. This dual depiction highlights the ambivalence that the English often appear to have felt toward the French - admiring them, yet uncomfortable with their expressions of civility.(34)
 

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:russ: im going to adopt this pose in all my pictures from now.
the future dibiaiase's be like was "was he an occultist" or he kept the "cocker spaniel" on him. :wow:

i took the Wolfpack/two sweet hand gesture and do it in every picture in a social gathering :mjlol:


Might use this as I age :myman:
 

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i took the Wolfpack/two sweet hand gesture and do it in every picture in a social gathering :mjlol:


Might use this as I age :myman:

Its got a sort of dignified quality to it, for real. creates immediate intrigue. lol @ sending that in christmas cards.

all my "knowledge god" heads would lose their minds. :russ:
 
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