when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[Stick Up Kid]

The worst mistake he ever made was stepping foot in California only 6 months after his rival was killed. Even tho snake ass Diddy forced him out there.

He was there months prior to record the album, but they were on the low.

Puffy made the mistake of hiring the SSC Crips for protection, knowing damn well that was a combustible situation with Death Row and the MOB/Leauder Parks

 

[spliz]

But he was in tune with the streets enough to figure out it was Jimmy henchmen boys and Bad boy had nothing to do with that. Why would Big earn him, then try to visit him in the hospital(words of pacs own father) after wise if he was apart of it? Another thing is Pac said “all of this good for selling records” so there was a part of this was used to promote record sales. Most involved were still in they’re mid 20s so I guess we can say it was young dumb mistakes made on all sides, but still.

Pac did know Jimmy Henchman was involved. He even said names in the Vibe interview and they blanked it out. Pac didnt like the actions that took place from Biggie AFTER he got shot. Lets get it straight here. Puff and Biggie was affiliated with the people who shot Pac. BOTH times. They was affiliated with Henchman. And they was affiliated with the South Side Compton Crips. Not only that. After Pac gets killed. He goes to LA and disses him on the radio. Whilst hanging around with the same nikkas and set that murdered Pac.

 

[R=G]

Vilify? Pac got shot and let suge use this whole situation to sell records. He knew who did it, and also knew biggie had nothing to do with it but felt they should of looked out for them. The true definition of a misunderstanding gone wild

Let? Shot is shot.
"I'm destroying them. I'm destroying them"

 

[DaHNIC82]

Pac tbought he was set up..it's not pushing buttons. It's calling nyggas out.

And Pac isn't no sneaky type hide your hands nikka like Puff, Dre, Snoop and Biggie was either so it made him look more erratic to the public

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Pac did know Jimmy Henchman was involved. He even said names in the Vibe interview and they blanked it out. Pac didnt like the actions that took place from Biggie AFTER he got shot. Lets get it straight here. Puff and Biggie was affiliated with the people who shot Pac. BOTH times. They was affiliated with Henchman. And they was affiliated with the South Side Compton Crips. Not only that. After Pac gets killed. He goes to LA and disses him on the radio. Whilst hanging around with the same nikkas and set that murdered Pac.

so why not put all the energy into jimmy? At the end of the day it was jimmy who got you shot. Biggie had nothing to do with that shyt and pac knew it. No excuses for him making it all about biggie when knew who did it and Jimmy Walked LA Peacefully. suge and Pac mentioned record sales plenty of times. Of course jimmy wasn’t no rapper. Suge used biggie for record sales and the situation got worse when the media got involved. No matter what Pac felt about biggie, if he was all for get back, take that energy to the nikkas that got you shot.
Nothing you or anybody else can say to change that. That’s like a nikka slap you and you make it all about his friend instead of the actual nikka that slapped you. What type of shyt is that? Ever once did I hear of jimmy living in fear of vengeance.

 

[spliz]

so why not put all the energy into jimmy?

He knew Jimmy was extorting Bad Boy so he wanted to fukk up their money and in turn fukk up Jimmy’s. He also started really coming at Jimmy n them on 7 Day Theory. He just died before everyrhing released. Bro it was only months between Hit Em Up and his death.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

He knew Jimmy was extorting Bad Boy so he wanted to fukk up their money and in turn fukk up Jimmy’s. He also started really coming at Jimmy n them on 7 Day Theory. He just died before everyrhing released. Bro it was only months between Hit Em Up and his death.

Nikka please. That nikka got you shot. Pac was all about this “he gonna do this and gonna do that” jimmy was in LA plenty of times. Why not run up on him? fukking bad boy money up by giving more attention to bad boy cause even after biggie, how many hits did puffy label put out?this is what I mean when I say young and dumb. You want beef go find Jimmy or the nikkas that shot you and kill, stop yapping about biggie, making videos/songs dissing him, trying to start problems with him when you know who shot you you idiot. Jimmy was probably laughing at Pac throughout that whole east vs west cause Pac knew better not to try that shyt to him before he get ass lit up again

 

[FeloniousMonk]

I agree but the reasoning for it is on par with what everybody else was thinking. Pac and suge took things too far. Not to say biggie was 100% innocent cause he wasn’t, but I never believed he wanted any harm done to Pac until Pac started pushing his buttons in the media.

If BIG knew what was taking place, he should of just told Pac not to come to the studio...that is if he's the real homie.

And Pac thinking BIG WAS the real homie, felt betrayed.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Can't forget that Biggie was wearing Pac's jewels that he got robbed for.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

If BIG knew what was taking place, he should of just told Pac not to come to the studio...that is if he's the real homie.

And Pac thinking BIG WAS the real homie, felt betrayed.

Why? so big could get killed instead? Remember Pac said Big was suppose to tell him what was going to happen and then Pac got shot no soon after. Nobody knows the context of why Big didn’t tell him the first time he warned him. Maybe some dudes was around, maybe he knew Pac was a big mouth who would tell the world(which he eventually did) so he was second guessing. You felt “betrayed” by a nikka you only knew for a couple years, so you make it all about him but never one story about death row running down on jimmy henchmen or his people?

I’m sorry but this says more about Pac and his mind process than it does biggie. Nikka you know who did it, you were in jail in NY, go do something to them nikkas instead of using east vs west to sell records

There’s no excuse you can make to spin it. Biggie was not this nikkas childhood friend, neither did he owe Pac his life. Even if he was, that shyt shouldn’t of been more important than payback against henchmen squad, but it was to him. All these death row stories for 20 something years and not ONE story about death row instilling fear of GAWD into jimmy henchmen.

 

[No Hook]

Gene Deal's account was . BIG was determined to get on that flight to London and Puff made him go to LA.


Plus I feel BIG was really nonchalant about Pac's death. But it also seems like he believed Pac smashed Faith so yeah

This

I've said before that I thought Pac embraced Biggie more than Biggie embraced Pac on a personal level. It seemed like behind closed doors, Pac would refer to Big as his friend, nikka, homie etc. But I never got the same from Big. To me it seemed like Pac was just "aight" to Biggie in a sense

Pac referred to Big as his nikka in this freestyle when he didn't have to. Granted that Pac was really freestyling and Biggie wasn't



I don't know if Big knew more than he said he did but it also didn't help that Biggie said Pac shot himself and that everything was a movie to Pac. If that was my so called "friend" I would be upset also. fukk if he knew anything or not

When Pac died and Biggie was interviewed about it he said "I feel for his moms but you know we just got to move on". I know that shyt between them wasn't the same but if my "friend" who taught me shyt in the music industry died this wouldn't be the response



Seemed like Biggie was relieved that Pac was gone as the whole east coast was. Which is why I think he thought it was ok to be in Cali

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Nikka please. That nikka got you shot. Pac was all about this “he gonna do this and gonna do that” jimmy was in LA plenty of times. Why not run up on him? fukking bad boy money up by giving more attention to bad boy cause even after biggie, how many hits did puffy label put out?this is what I mean when I say young and dumb. You want beef go find Jimmy or the nikkas that shot you and kill, stop yapping about biggie, making videos/songs dissing him, trying to start problems with him when you know who got you idiot. Jimmy was probably laughing at Pac throughout that whole east vs west cause Pac knew better not to try that shyt to him before he get ass lit up again

I was listening to a reggie wright jr. interview a few weeks ago and he addressed the rumor that henchman had approached them and wanted smoke. He basically said that it never happened and if anyone for NY tried then it would have been a tragedy for them due to home field advantage. Not sure when Jimmy was said to have been in la but DR did run up on their enemies regularly (well documented) when they came to La. Same way Napoleon talks about him and his guys running up on Haitian jack in vegas. Don't know why jimmy would be exempt from this treatment. Another thing he said, not sure if it was the same interview but he spoke on Pac walking mad far back to his hotel after his park encounter with nas. There was also talk of him going to Brooklyn doing one of NY trips walking the streets with his guys and being strapped. Let's keep it a buck, Pac was with whatever. He wasn't hiding from Jimmy in NY or LA. He epitomized a man of war during that period.

 

[kingofnyc]

when nikkaz gonna STOP making these type of threads about shyt they know nothing about

 

[DaHNIC82]

Nikka please. That nikka got you shot. Pac was all about this “he gonna do this and gonna do that” jimmy was in LA plenty of times. Why not run up on him? fukking bad boy money up by giving more attention to bad boy cause even after biggie, how many hits did puffy label put out?this is what I mean when I say young and dumb. You want beef go find Jimmy or the nikkas that shot you and kill, stop yapping about biggie, making videos/songs dissing him, trying to start problems with him when you know who got you idiot. Jimmy was probably laughing at Pac throughout that whole east vs west cause Pac knew better not to try that shyt to him before he get ass lit up again

He had Henchman targeted before he even got out of prison

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Why? so big could get killed instead? Remember Pac said Big was suppose to tell him what was going to happen and then Pac got shot no soon after. Nobody knows the context of why Big didn’t tell him the first time he warned him. Maybe some dudes was around, maybe he knew Pac was a big mouth who would tell the world(which he eventually did) so he was second guessing. You felt “betrayed” by a nikka you only knew for a couple years, so you make it all about him but never one story about death row running down on jimmy henchmen or his people?

I’m sorry but this says more about Pac and his mind process than it does biggie. Nikka you know who did it, you were in jail in NY, go do something to them nikkas instead of using east vs west to sell records

Maybe maybe maybe.

Yes Pac felt betrayed, because Pac and BIG hit it off from the start..Lets not forget Pac looked out for BIG when BIG was just starting out, yet..only knew each other a couple years.

Pac's flaw was blind loyalty.

Im tired people saying "Oh just go after the people who did it".

Pac didnt have the money nor resources to war..at THAT time.

Yet people want the nicca to put himself in harms way for revenge.

That sounds kinda goofy..