When people ask why I have a problem with religion (imgur)

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for the 50th time, i agree with this. and religion being used as a tool for bad is NOT OUTWEIGHED by idiots taking comfort in looking at the sky and getting a fuzzy feeling

So if you agree that religion is USED FOR A TOOL, then what are you arguing about? You think normal religious Muslims, Christians, and Jews are the ones causing mayhem on this world? Or those that use these religions (and other institutions such as gov't , military, schooling etc...) as tools to get what they want?

I dont think its idiotic to believe that the universe was created. Especially when considering the amount of detail we have found and STILL do not know. Atheists ignore that though. They ignore how detailed their human body down to their BRAIN is and say that the universe did that. Or some arbitrary universe that doesnt have life itself, somehow gave forth to life, all the way down to the DETAILS that our existence and our human bodies have. I dont see it my friend.

-religion is far too prominent to say that we're getting less religious and having it actually mean something

I think its clear my friend. For instance turn on the TV and see what is on. Then go back and look at the 50's and how they were crazy about not showing Elvis's hip shaking. Or putting a married man and women in the same bed on TV. Extreme? Yes. But it also shows the moral decline we've had since then. Thats without mentioning homosexuality being openly promoted. Fall of Greece and Rome all over again...

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-there are a thousand religions breh

So we didnt just exemplify how the god the greeks worshiped was not God because he was created by higher beings? How does that not eliminate that idol from being the God that created EVERYTHING in existence?
 

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So if you agree that religion is USED FOR A TOOL, then what are you arguing about? You think normal religious Muslims, Christians, and Jews are the ones causing mayhem on this world? Or those that use these religions (and other institutions such as gov't , military, schooling etc...) as tools to get what they want?
we'd be better off without any of it, because the negative actions of religion outweigh the positives.
I dont think its idiotic to believe that the universe was created. Especially when considering the amount of detail we have found and STILL do not know. Atheists ignore that though. They ignore how detailed their human body down to their BRAIN is and say that the universe did that. Or some arbitrary universe that doesnt have life itself, somehow gave forth to life, all the way down to the DETAILS that our existence and our human bodies have. I dont see it my friend.

it isnt idiotic. its idiotic to think that you know what the answer is, because you read a bible :scusthov:

I think its clear my friend. For instance turn on the TV and see what is on. Then go back and look at the 50's and how they were crazy about not showing Elvis's hip shaking. Or putting a married man and women in the same bed on TV. Extreme? Yes. But it also shows the moral decline we've had since then. Thats without mentioning homosexuality being openly promoted. Fall of Greece and Rome all over again...

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religious hatred and extremism is far too prominent to dismiss, no matter how much you think its declining. leme know when an open atheist could get elected in this country


So we didnt just exemplify how the god the greeks worshiped was not God because he was created by higher beings? How does that not eliminate that idol from being the God that created EVERYTHING in existence?

its ridiculous to think that theres some god who is popping out zeus's and jesus's and whatever the fukk. miss me w that shyt, because the greek ultimate creator is NOT yours too :beli: theyre obviously different
 

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we'd be better off without any of it, because the negative actions of religion outweigh the positives.

You'd be better off without the men that use their free will to harm others thru tools (military, religion, schooling, taxation etc...)

Religion is the least of your worries (for the most part)
it isnt idiotic. its idiotic to think that you know what the answer is, because you read a bible :scusthov:

But its not "idiotic" for one to think they know that God doesnt exist?

Btw, I think its something to look at when a small little nation like the hebrews has their god worshiped over the huge civilizations like the Egyptians or Babylonians, or Greeks etc.. This small nation over these huge civilizations that have done "so much" for life as we know it? No coincidences my friend

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religious hatred and extremism is far too prominent to dismiss, no matter how much you think its declining. leme know when an open atheist could get elected in this country

I wouldnt want an atheist ruling over me. It has nothing to do with "hatred" or "extremism".

its ridiculous to think that theres some god who is popping out zeus's and jesus's and whatever the fukk. miss me w that shyt, because the greek ultimate creator is NOT yours too :beli: theyre obviously different

The greeks didnt worship the parents of their god. But their god who you named.

You asked me to differentiate the greek mythology from the God I worshiped and I did that. Even though I thought you didnt really want the answer. Now why would one who is looking for God, the Creator of the existence they are currently in, accept a being that was created from other beings as God? I dont have an answer for this but maybe you do since you were (and it seems like still are) trying to equate the god of the greeks, with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Got one?
 

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You'd be better off without the men that use their free will to harm others thru tools (military, religion, schooling, taxation etc...)
-no shyt, but that doesnt address religious ducktales



But its not "idiotic" for one to think they know that God doesnt exist?
-its not idiotic to use reason and logic, and go with the likelihood that god is a man made myth since each culture has a different one :beli:


I wouldnt want an atheist ruling over me. It has nothing to do with "hatred" or "extremism".
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The greeks didnt worship the parents of their god. But their god who you named.
You asked me to differentiate the greek mythology from the God I worshiped and I did that. Even though I thought you didnt really want the answer. Now why would one who is looking for God, the Creator of the existence they are currently in, accept a being that was created from other beings as God? I dont have an answer for this but maybe you do since you were (and it seems like still are) trying to equate the god of the greeks, with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Got one?
bullshyt nitpicking, i wont address this. choose another culture whose god created everything, and insert it into my question :beli:
 

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-no shyt, but that doesnt address religious ducktales

Im only dealing with God. If you want someone else to tell you the "truth" of their religion, Im sure there are some here and on other religions that can give you that.



-its not idiotic to use reason and logic, and go with the likelihood that god is a man made myth since each culture has a different one

Wait... So since EACH culture has a god, the logical thing to conclude is that God doesnt exist at all? How so?


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bullshyt nitpicking, i wont address this. choose another culture whose god created everything, and insert it into my question

Oh so its "nitpicking" when I clearly exemplify why the god of the greeks is not on the same plane as the God of the Hebrews just going off of what BOTH civilizations wrote about the beings they respectively worshiped? If a being is in existence on the result of another being, than we can safely conclude that that being is not God. You asked. And you received.

I think YOU should choose another culture my friend. I know the God that I worship and honor. I just want you and my fellow friends to do the same (and better than myself) so that we can either turn this existence around into a better one, or enjoy the next one we get (if we're blessed enough) together..
 

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It was right my friend.

His problem isnt with religion its with God (from my perception).

Your perception is stupid. Objectively stupid.

To say that he "has a problem with God" presupposes that 1) someone up there indeed wanted all of those things to happen and 2) the people who committed those acts are divinely absolved of responsibility.

Completely circular and self-supporting.
 

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Your perception is stupid. Objectively stupid.

Hopefully you're not an atheist while saying this

To say that he "has a problem with God" presupposes that 1) someone up there indeed wanted all of those things to happen and 2) the people who committed those acts are divinely absolved of responsibility.

Completely circular and self-supporting.

Thats your perception my friend. But if friend REALLY had a problem with religion, I would see more religions than the ones presented in the OP. So because of what I just said, and my convos with him, its not religion so much as it is God and God existing that he has a problem with. I'd get that squared away if I were him but I guess thats free will for you
 
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