When Russ wins MVP this year, doesn't that prove Harden was robbed in 2015?

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Harden averaged 27/7/6

Curry averaged 24/8/4

Notice the statistical difference is damn near the same difference between Russ and Harden this year.

Some things to note. Curry led a team to a better record. But he had the better team by FAR. He had multiple all stars and Iggy who was still possibly the best bench player in the league. Harden didn't have Dwight, who was washed already tbh, for half the season. Beverly was gone for a bunch of games. He was running with Dmo and Tarik Black for a huge portion of the season as his front court and 40 year old Jet as his backcourt running mate. Harden still led the Rockets to a 56 win season with that trash roster.

This season, Westbrook has the better stats but has a lesser team. In my opinion not nearly the difference between the Warriors and Rockets 2 years ago, but still a weaker team none the less. But now the narrative has completely changed. Russ is carrying a bum squad so he should win MVP, even though statistically he's slightly better but less efficient, (again damn near the same differences statistically and efficiency wise between Steph and Harden in 2015) but didn't win nearly as much. As a Rockets stan you have to see why this is frustrating for us.

We finally accepted carrying a team doesn't matter, you have to win at a higher rate. Basically best player on best team. But now apparently it reverted. And honestly if Kawhi was going to win MVP i'd accept, it would at least be consistent with what happened in 2015, but Russ winning it? Makes no sense and really feels like the media still has an agenda against James Harden, which was disgustingly obvious last year, when they blamed him for all the struggles for the Rockets even though anyone with half a brain and an eye for basketball knew he was the least of the problems.

Anyway it's just crazy that Harden will lose the MVP for doing what Curry did to win it in 2015. Without dudes like Dray, Klay, and Iggy. I'm not even mad at Russ winning it, I completely see the argument to be clear. But Harden was fukken robbed in 2015. The media wanted to give it to the new golden boy Steph :yeshrug:. I think if the media did a revote they'd give it to Harden especially knowing that Curry would get it unanimously the year after.
 

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:yawn:MVP USUALLY GOES TO THE BEST PLAYER ON THE 1 SEED.
(rarely 2 seed)
STEVE NASHS 2ND ONE WAS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE
BECAUSE AMARE MISSED THE SEASON.

THEY WERENT GIVING IT TO GS AFTER KD JOINED....

THATS THE ONLY REASON
RUSS/HARDEN UP FOR DEBATE

IF KAWHI COULDA GRABBED THE 1 SEED
HE WOULD HAVE WON MVP.
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the difference is that curry had an insane on/off court rating which harden didnt have. westbrook has that on/off court rating and better stats
 

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IF KAWHI COULDA GRABBED THE 1 SEED
HE WOULD HAVE WON MVP.
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Bullshyt, the media were :ahh: over the Westbrook stat padding triple doubles when the Spurs were on top, it's ALWAYS a popularity contest.


The media wanted Westbrook to win the MVP before the season started because it made a great storyline with Durant leaving
 

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Lol you just pulled up Steph's point rebound assist averages. The MVP isn't based on three stats, he had a record breaking offensive year and was leading a young fresh contender
 

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Bullshyt, the media were :ahh: over the Westbrook stat padding triple doubles when the Spurs were on top, it's ALWAYS a popularity contest.


The media wanted Westbrook to win the MVP before the season started because it made a great storyline with Durant leaving


NAH KAWHI WAS GETTING MEDIA PUSH
WHEN GS STRUGGLED WITHOUT KD
AND SPURS TOOK THE 1 SEED.

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Saying he was robbed in 2015 was a reach.

It would be more of a robbery this year in my opinion.

Westbrook has been great but so has Harden and his team has been better.

If Kawhi's game was flashy enough he would be the run away MVP strictly cause of wins.
 

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I don't even really give a shyt if Russy wins MVP or not (this is going to be remembered as his season anyway), but part of me hopes he does win it just because of how fukking bad the Rockets & their fans have campaigned for it/how mad about it they are about it :mjgrin:
 

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One problem is you don't know year to year what the criteria is for winning MVP. Sometimes it's the best player with the best record others it's the best player bar none in the league on a team that wins 50. Even other years it's given to someone who lifts a team to heights previously not reached like when Nash won it. But since he won it shouldn't Kidd have won 1 with the Nets or Bron in 15 with his return to the Cavs.
 

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Lol you just pulled up Steph's point rebound assist averages. The MVP isn't based on three stats, he had a record breaking offensive year and was leading a young fresh contender

Harden had a better offensive year than Russ this year and than '15 Curry and the Rockets were a top 10 offense of all time.

The Thunder this year weren't even top half of the league on offense.

Russ season is historical for the sole reason he had the highest usage rate of all time. So it seems pretty clear it was based on three stats.:ufdup:
 

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Curry and Harden both had MVP worthy seasons. Either way, I don't think the runner up was getting robbed.
 

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harden was robbed
chris paul was robbed
kobe was robbed
jason kidd was robbed

it happens


feel like james gone stay getting robbed too.. he gone end up getting a retroactive mvp and rob some whippersnapper down the line, like Giannis or some shyt
 
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