When u think about Trump hasnt dealt wit shyt. Lets think back to things Obeezy had to overcome

[Starman]

fukk outta here.


https://splinternews.com/mcconnell-is-a-massive-hypocrite-but-it-hardly-matters-1833714329


The Victory of ‘No’

And I don't fukk with Obama AT All, but stop with your ahistorical horseshyt.

You and others here, however you all feel about Obama, are incapable of even seeing #theresistance to Trump. Resistance to Trump, apparently to you all, is simply how things should go. The intel community is supposed to leak against him. The courts are supposed to stymie his edicts. The FBI is supposed to use fake intel to spy on his campaign. It's only when you believe that resistance to Trump is the way things should be, do you not see any. I can't help that, and I don't expect to change any minds here. I know where most of you stand and y'all know where I stand.

 

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You and others here, however you all feel about Obama, are incapable of even seeing #theresistance to Trump. Resistance to Trump, apparently to you all, is simply how things should go. The intel community is supposed to leak against him. The courts are supposed to stymie his edicts. The FBI is supposed to use fake intel to spy on his campaign. It's only when you believe that resistance to Trump is the way things should be, do you not see any. I can't help that, and I don't expect to change any minds here. I know where most of you stand and y'all know where I stand.

There’s been no proof FBI deliberately created a fake investigation to stop Trump. If there was they certainly didn’t do Hillary any favors by reopening an already closed investigation that benefited Trump.

Trump made things worse by firing Comey and asking him for loyalty.

 

[Starman]

There’s been no proof FBI deliberately created a fake investigation to stop Trump.

I said used, not created.

Newly unearthed memos show a high-ranking government official who met with Steele in October 2016 determined some of the Donald Trumpdirt that Steele was simultaneously digging up for the FBI and for Hillary Clinton’s campaign was inaccurate, and likely leaked to the media.

The concerns were flagged in a typed memo and in handwritten notes taken by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec on Oct. 11, 2016.

Her observations were recorded exactly 10 days before the FBI used Steele and his infamous dossier to justify securing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page and the campaign’s contacts with Russia in search of a now debunked collusion theory.

It is important to note that the FBI swore on Oct. 21, 2016, to the FISA judges that Steele’s “reporting has been corroborated and used in criminal proceedings” and the FBI has determined him to be “reliable” and was “unaware of any derogatory information pertaining” to their informant, who simultaneously worked for Fusion GPS, the firm paid bythe Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Clinton campaign to find Russian dirt on Trump.

That’s a pretty remarkable declaration in Footnote 5 on Page 15 of the FISA application, since Kavalec apparently needed just a single encounter with Steele at State to find one of his key claims about Trump-Russia collusion was blatantly false.


In her typed summary, Kavalec wrote that Steele told her the Russians had constructed a “technical/human operation run out of Moscow targeting the election” that recruited emigres in the United States to “do hacking and recruiting.”

She quoted Steele as saying, “Payments to those recruited are made out of the Russian Consulate in Miami,” according to a copy of her summary memo obtained under open records litigation by the conservative group Citizens United. Kavalec bluntly debunked that assertion in a bracketed comment: “It is important to note that there is no Russian consulate in Miami.”

Kavalec, two days later and well before the FISA warrant was issued, forwarded her typed summary to other government officials. The State Department has redacted the names and agencies of everyone she alerted. It is unlikely that her concerns failed to reach the FBI.

FBI's Steele story falls apart: False intel and media contacts were flagged before FISA

You're free to hang your hat on the fact that "unlikely" isn't "impossible", but that would suggest to me that you really want to believe the FBI was unawares. Then I'd start to wonder why...

Also, this isn't the best case for FBI malfeasance, it's just one of the more recent ones. Come on over to the Investigating the Investigators thread. Let's figure this mess out.

 

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I said used, not created.



FBI's Steele story falls apart: False intel and media contacts were flagged before FISA

You're free to hang your hat on the fact that "unlikely" isn't "impossible", but that would suggest to me that you really want to believe the FBI was unawares. Then I'd start to wonder why...

Also, this isn't the best case for FBI malfeasance, it's just one of the more recent ones. Come on over to the Investigating the Investigators thread. Let's figure this mess out.

The FISA application relied on additional evidence beyond the dossier. But Republicans (most notably Rep. Devin Nunes) have questioned whether the origins of the dossier — that it was commissioned by an opposition research firm hired by the Clinton campaign — were properly disclosed in the warrant application. The implication here is that the FISA warrant to spy on Page was improperly authorized, and potentially politically motivated.

Those familiar with the process have said this is not true, and that the political origins of the dossier were made clear. A judge also reviewed and approved the Page FISA application multiple times (these warrants need to be renewed every 90 days, and the last application was authorized by then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the summer of 2017).

The investigations into the Russia investigations, explained

Are you “investigating the investigators” or chasing your tail?

 

[Starman]

The FISA application relied on additional evidence beyond the dossier. But Republicans (most notably Rep. Devin Nunes) have questioned whether the origins of the dossier — that it was commissioned by an opposition research firm hired by the Clinton campaign — were properly disclosed in the warrant application. The implication here is that the FISA warrant to spy on Page was improperly authorized, and potentially politically motivated.

Those familiar with the process have said this is not true, and that the political origins of the dossier were made clear. A judge also reviewed and approved the Page FISA application multiple times (these warrants need to be renewed every 90 days, and the last application was authorized by then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the summer of 2017).

The investigations into the Russia investigations, explained

Are you “investigating the investigators” or chasing your tail?

It doesn't matter what else was presented, the dossier should not have been. And multiple renewals don't bolster your case. The dossier is crap and that doesn't change because multiple judges let it slide.

There are strict rules requiring that each and every fact presented in an FBI request to electronically spy on a U.S. citizen be extreme-vetted for accuracy — and presented to the court only if verified.
There’s no dispute that at least some, if not a great deal, of information in the anti-Trump “Steele dossier” was unverified or false.

Nunes memo raises question: Did FBI violate Woods Procedures?

 

[Starman]

Double.

 

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It doesn't matter what else was presented, the dossier should not have been. And multiple renewals don't bolster your case. The dossier is crap and that doesn't change because multiple judges let it slide.



Nunes memo raises question: Did FBI violate Woods Procedures?

Sorry breh but looking at the timeline from the hacking to the FISA the current available info just doesn’t prove the FBI was out to deliberately stop Trump from being elected or his presidency because......“swamp things”.

Also considering the below link from 2016, someone had to have spoken up (whistleblower) about a coop within the FBI to stop Trump right?

'The FBI is Trumpland': anti-Clinton atmosphere spurred leaking, sources say

 

[Starman]

Sorry breh but looking at the timeline from the hacking to the FISA the current available info just doesn’t prove the FBI was out to deliberately stop Trump from being elected or his presidency because......“swamp things”.

This doesn't follow.

It doesn't matter what else was presented, the dossier should not have been. And multiple renewals don't bolster your case. The dossier is crap and that doesn't change because multiple judges let it slide.

Do you accept that the dossier should not have been used in the FISA because it wasn't verified? Are you suggesting the FBI didn't know the dossier wasn't verified?

 

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This doesn't follow.

Your allegations of FBI bias of Trump (to stop him from being president/ruin his presidency) are shoddy.

Do you accept that the dossier should not have been used in the FISA because it wasn't verified? Are you suggesting the FBI didn't know the dossier wasn't verified?

1.) Four different judges, all appointed by Republican presidents, signed off on electronic surveillance of Carter Page.

And that's the end of a long process that involves multiple layers of review within the FBI and the Justice Department, current and former officials say. Anyone trying to put one over on the FISA court would be risking his or her career.


2.) It was not improper — and perfectly normal — for the FBI to disclose information from the Steele dossier as part of the warrant application.


Andrew McCarthy, a former prosecutor and Trump backer, has argued that the dossier amounted to unverified hearsay, and that the FBI misrepresented that it had verified the information. But Figliuzzi and other former officials say the use of hearsay is common in warrant applications, because the FBI wants to tell the judge as much as possible about what is known about the target. No judge, however, would grant a surveillance warrant based ENTIRELY on hearsay, Figliuzzi said.

Why Trump is wrong about Carter Page, the dossier and the FISA warrant

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Financial Crisis
BP oil spill
Fukkin Ebola
Japan Nuke shyt
Bin Laden
Constant obstruction

I know Im forgetting shyt.

ISIS ain't even shyt anymore either

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Looking back on it, he was a fence sitting centrist p*ssy when it came to the financial crisis. He looked out for the banks instead of the people being foreclosed on and the stimulus package was too small.

you couldn't predict the future stop it.

 

[88m3]

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Trump claims 'a National Holiday would be immediately declared' if Obama made the deals he has
Trump continued his attacks on the media, saying the press would be hailing his deals as "incredible" if they took place under Obama.

 

[Pressure]

Looking back on it, he was a fence sitting centrist p*ssy when it came to the financial crisis. He looked out for the banks instead of the people being foreclosed on and the stimulus package was too small.

Tarp funding was done under Bush.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Trump had Deepstate opposition. Leaks, false intelligence, a special council!

Breh, the Special Council was appointed by his OWN Deputy AG that HE appointed and it had to happen because HE fired the head of the FBI in order to stop an investigation that HE was scared of.

If the Special Counsel hadn't been appointed there would have been a Constitutional crisis.

Self-inflicted wounds aren't obstacles to overcome.

If Trump doesn't try to obstruct justice by firing the head of the FBI, then there is no special council.

And how are leaks an obstacle? If anything the leaks helped him because they led all the indicting information about Trump to come out slowly. Can you imagine if the first time we found out about all that bullshyt, all at once, was in the Special Counsel report?

There was legit talk of him not lasting a year. No honeymoon phase. He was allegedly a Manchurian Candidate and there like 4 investigations of that claim.

Wait, Trump had almost unprecendented control with majorities in both houses and 95% of Republicans ready to auto-sign anything he did, and you're complaining about no honeymoon period? What were you afraid was going to happen to him those first two years with Republican control over every part of government? He got a completely bullshyt tax law signed and two Supreme Court Justice candidates approved, one of which was horrific and repeatedly perjured himself in front of the Senate.

The situations don't have to be identical, only close enough for the party in power to be able to convince the base that this is acceptable. It's politics. It was a power move. They had the senate and held the line.

If there was a Cheney Rule instead of a Biden Rule, and Dems had the Senate ? Absolutely.

You're spouting absolute bullshyt, but since you're part of "the base", I can see why you believe it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nunes memo

I love how anyone even pretends to take Nunes seriously after he already leaked information to the White House when he was supposed to be investigating them and has destroyed the separation of powers by abdicating his responsibilities and becoming a complete lackey to Trump's agenda.