When will women accept that for a man monogamy isn't natural?

[MeachTheMonster]

Im linking healthy nurturing vs monogamy.

meachthemonster is basing a nourishing upbringing by monogamy.
Its IDEAL but it doesnt take both parents to nourish and develop a child..it takes a healthy environment to establish that..positive male/female rolemodels.

None of that has anything to do with this thread. The question was is it "natural" for males to engage in monogomy. I gave plenty of proof and explanations to support my position, you have done nothing but argue semantics, and worthless points. Either refute my position or keep it moving.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

None of that has anything to do with this thread. The question was is it "natural" for males to engage in monogomy. I gave plenty of proof and explanations to support my position, you have done nothing but argue semantics, and worthless points. Either refute my position or keep it moving.

You saying a child needs both parents to be nourished properly due to monogamy being "natural" for humans.

Im saying they dont....and it isnt...


Proof?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You saying a child needs both parents to be nourished properly due to monogamy being "natural" for humans.

Im saying they dont....and it isnt...


Proof?

I never said its the only way a child can be raised successfully. I said it gives the child the "best" chance of being raised successfully. Usually what's natural is also what gives a species the "best" chance for success.

You've admitted that the ideal upbringing for a human child is to have both parents present so please explain to me how polygamy is natural for human males.

 

[rapdonttweet]

Im linking healthy nurturing vs monogamy.

meachthemonster is basing a nourishing upbringing by monogamy.

It looks like you're arguing against a straw man you created. No one said monogamy was the end all be all. There's varying factors with everything. All other things being right, monogamy does benefit the child.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

I never said its the only way a child can be raised successfully. I said it gives the child the "best" chance of being raised successfully. Usually what's natural is also what gives a species the "best" chance for success.

You've admitted that the ideal upbringing for a human child is to have both parents present so please explain to me how polygamy is natural for human males.

So when it comes to population and procreation its in humans gene to procreate furthering the success of the species, this being the human race.



Therefore it would be counter productive for us as humans procreating to stick to one mate, ESPECIALLY males, thats why in NATURE the female will only mate with the ALPHA as to as you put it

what's natural is also what gives a species the "best" chance for success.

. Most animals you speak on have a alpha male and live in packs.

bottomline men lust after women, they dont look for monogamy, women are either open or close to said mens advances based on courtship, personality and possible reputation...Woman want monogamy due to emotional bonding and as to not having to deal with other men wanting to bear offspring.

Man is monogamous because certain cultures says he supposed to be.

In some parts of the world polygamy is accepted.

Man may have every good intention (check out the movie she hate me), yet in TODAYS western society its unacceptable for men and women to have a "open" relationship, be swingers, swap sexual mates..be polygamists... ..whatever THEY do in their personal lives reflects who they are as people shouldnt be the way we judge ones character if its not hurting anyone.

Monogamy/polygamy are lifestyles..not natural acts...

 

[FeloniousMonk]

All other things being right, monogamy does benefit the child.

Yeah, right..in a perfect world..

 

[Patrick Kane]

Get pu$$y man, as much of it as you can and in every flavor you want

There's a lot of lames on this board man, don't listen to these dudes. Enjoy your life

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So when it comes to population and procreation its in humans gene to procreate to further the success of the species, this being the human race.



Therefore it would be counter productive for us as humans procreating to stick to one mate, ESPECIALLY males, thats why in NATURE the female will only mate with the ALPHA as to as you put it . Most animals you speak on have a alpha male and live in packs.

Actualy it would be counterproductive for males to run around impregnating any woman they come in contact with because those kids would have a very slim chance for survival. Evolutionarily it makes much more sense for humans to have and concentrate on the survival of one child, which is why our females only have one child.

I didn't speak of any animal individually, but one thing that holds true with any species is the male does his part in contributing to the species success. With some species this starts and ends with sex, for some species monogomy is the answer.

Another thing that holds true in the wild is, the more attention the offspring need, the more likely the parents are monogomous. Human children need more attention than any animal I can think of, so it only makes sense that we are a monogomous species.

bottomline men lust after women, they dont look for monogamy, women are either open or close to said mens advances based on courtship, personality and possible reputation...Woman want monogamy due to emotional bonding and as to not having to deal with other men wanting to bear offspring.


Man is monogamous because certain cultures says he supposed to be.

In some parts of the world polygamy is accepted.

Man may have every good intention (check out the movie she hate me), yet in TODAYS western society its unacceptable for men and women to have a "open" relationship, be swingers, swap sexual mates..be polygamists... ..whatever THEY do in their personal lives reflects who they are as people shouldnt be the way we judge ones character if its not hurting anyone.

Monogamy/polygamy are lifestyles..not natural acts...

All of this is human societal shyt, and has nothing to do with what's "natural". Since the begening of recorded human history we have been monogomous. It's society (mostly power and money) that has caused us to challenge our natural way of life.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Get pu$$y man, as much of it as you can and in every flavor you want

There's a lot of lames on this board man, don't listen to these dudes. Enjoy your life

ain't nothing wrong wit getting a bunch of p*ssy. Just strap up and make sure you're not married first.

 

[Patrick Kane]

ain't nothing wrong wit getting a bunch of p*ssy. Just strap up and make sure you're not married first.

I agree

 

[winb83]

Which is exactly why it can be fulfilled with one woman. Sex is sex, as long as a man is having it his biological urges are being fulfilled. How and with whom he fulfills that urge is where the logical decision comes in.

Should murderers get a pass because their biological urge told them to kill?

you're applying rational thought to an urge that isn't capable of that. i don't care how much you love your woman deep down every attractive women you encounter there's a part of you, and its a part you can't get rid of, that's gonna always wanna fukk that chick too.

its like you're thinking about it on this all you want is sex so you can just have it with the same woman problem solved then that nice ass walks by and you look because it doesn't take any thought to look and want. its hard-coded into you.

 

[winb83]

You might as well be advocating rape. Biological urge doesn't discriminate between a willing and unwilling participant either.

who said i'm advocating anything? i don't advocate abandoning Christianity and giving into sin because of the urge. all i'm saying is its about time we quit denying the fact that these urges exist and that its difficult to control them.

people act like if you love person x you'll only want sex from them and that's a lie. it would be more truthful to say if you value the relationship with person x you'll accept those terms and if you do break them suffer the consequences of your actions.

its just much easier for people to place the blame on someone else. perhaps you love person x and they cheat on you. its easier to tell yourself person x cheated because they didn't love you than to accept that you love them, they love you, they made a mistake and you're walking away from them because of what they did despite the love on both ends.

Exactly, if winb83 is to be believed then we should be understanding of pedophiles, and puppy fukkers too. It's only their biological urge

to me pedophilia is like a sexual fetish. its not natural its created by life events as most fetishes are.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

you're applying rational thought to an urge that isn't capable of that. i don't care how much you love your woman deep down every attractive women you encounter there's a part of you, and its a part you can't get rid of, that's gonna always wanna fukk that chick too.

its like you're thinking about it on this all you want is sex so you can just have it with the same woman problem solved then that nice ass walks by and you look because it doesn't take any thought to look and want. its hard-coded into you.

Your correct Sex is hard coded into us, there doesn't even have to be a female present for us to want to have sex. My point is, that urge is just sex, doesn't matter if you fukk Tyra banks or your hand, once you bus a nut the desire is gone. Again the rational thought comes in when we choose how to satisfy that urge. I'm not saying that the urge isn't there, I'm saying if you've made a commitment to someone you agreed to satisfy your urge with them, if you break that promise you made a bad decision.

Biologically speaking there is no difference between a 13 year old and a 23 year old. So should we be understanding of dudes who fukk 13 year olds?

 

[winb83]

Your correct Sex is hard coded into us, there doesn't even have to be a female present for us to want to have sex. My point is, that urge is just sex, doesn't matter if you fukk Tyra banks or your hand, once you bus a nut the desire is gone. Again the rational thought comes in when we choose how to satisfy that urge. I'm not saying that the urge isn't there, I'm saying if you've made a commitment to someone you agreed to satisfy your urge with them, if you break that promise you made a bad decision.

Biologically speaking there is no difference between a 13 year old and a 23 year old. So should we be understanding of dudes who fukk 13 year olds?

if nobody ever told you about masturbation chances are you may never discover it. people masturbate because its pleasurable but not due to a biological desire to masturbate.

there is a difference between a 13 year old and a 23 year old. the 23 year old has more sexual traits that a man would be attracted to. fuller hips, larger breast ect. the things that sexually attract men to women are mostly absent from a 13 year old.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

if nobody ever told you about masturbation chances are you may never discover it. people masturbate because its pleasurable but not due to a biological desire to masturbate.

there is a difference between a 13 year old and a 23 year old. the 23 year old has more sexual traits that a man would be attracted to. fuller hips, larger breast ect. the things that sexually attract men to women are mostly absent from a 13 year old.

so who taught the first dude how to masturbate? Again the biological desire is to bus a nut, your body doesn't know or care how you make that happen.

I've seen some pretty mature looking 13-16 year olds, should having sex with them be acceptable as long as they look like women?