When you think about how Biggie and Jay-Z have that gift of not writing rhymes it is amazing

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Not really. If you do it all day, it's a skill you hone like anything else. Especially when you're young and your brain is pliable. Remembering 16 bars isn't some impossible feat. Canibus said he practised those legendary freestyles over the Broken Language instrumental looped so he would have them memorized and ready to go. Just ran the tape over and over and rapping them until he got them locked. If that's what you put your mind to, it will happen.
yeah he memorized them, but canibus never said he wrote full albums in his brain without a pencil. This is what Jay Z is claiming. And the intelligent know it's bullshyt. I believe he wrote the "ha" remix in his head, cuz it was garbage.
 

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Why is this so hard to believe?

Instead of writing rhymes on the spot while the beat is playing, Jay and Big just eliminate a step. They go in the Booth and spit what's in their head vs. writing it down and then going in.
 

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Why is this so hard to believe?

Instead of writing rhymes on the spot while the beat is playing, Jay and Big just eliminate a step. They go in the Booth and spit what's in their head vs. writing it down and then going in.
Has Jay ever spit a non written during a Freestyle session? NO

Thats not weird to you?
 

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Has Jay ever spit a non written during a Freestyle session? NO

Thats not weird to you?
99% of rapper freestyles are writtens, dawg. It's always easy to tell when they're going off the top of the dome because the raps are way more basic, less coherent, and lines tend to bleed into each other. But when you hear a really dope freestyle, it's usually written. Hell back in the 90s when there wasn't internet guys would go on the radio and spit whole verses from their upcoming albums. I've heard Mobb Deep rap all of Trife Life on Stretch & Bobbito and Nas rap the first Memory Lane verse, for example. Big L wouldn't spit whole verses from songs, but a lot of lines from them would get in there.

And Jay never said he freestyles, he just writes and edits it in his head and commits it to memory. Actually fairly simple and I do it a lot when I have to present stuff.
 

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99% of rapper freestyles are writtens, dawg. It's always easy to tell when they're going off the top of the dome because the raps are way more basic, less coherent, and lines tend to bleed into each other. But when you hear a really dope freestyle, it's usually written. Hell back in the 90s when there wasn't internet guys would go on the radio and spit whole verses from their upcoming albums. I've heard Mobb Deep rap all of Trife Life on Stretch & Bobbito and Nas rap the first Memory Lane verse, for example. Big L wouldn't spit whole verses from songs, but a lot of lines from them would get in there.

And Jay never said he freestyles, he just writes and edits it in his head and commits it to memory. Actually fairly simple and I do it a lot when I have to present stuff.
I get the whole write and edit, mumble to myself bable people claim he does. I find that extremely harder to do in 2O minutes than spit a 16 or 32 off the top like say Common or KRS does to perfection. And Common is a writer. Immaculate writer. KRS too

This is what I find unexplainable. Its not hate towards Jay. Jay is a great writer. I just think Big said he did this and Jay hopped on that train. Wayne too.

Most who say they do it, like NBA Youngboy or whoever in this generation...., it sounds like it. just a bunch of trash comes out
 

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i be mining my own business and a random biggie line pops in my head, like :banderas:

i'm flaming gats, aiming at, these maniacs, who want to put my name in raps, what part of the game is that?

flows be goated

but yeah, jay-z then used this as a way to show rappers that he's better than them and lyrics got dumbed down severely after that from even lyrical rappers, like when cam joined rocafella and did the dr suess flow on purple haze when he was barred up prior
 
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I get the whole write and edit, mumble to myself bable people claim he does. I find that extremely harder to do in 2O minutes than spit a 16 or 32 off the top like say Common or KRS does to perfection. And Common is a writer. Immaculate writer. KRS too

This is what I find unexplainable. Its not hate towards Jay. Jay is a great writer. I just think Big said he did this and Jay hopped on that train. Wayne too.

Most who say they do it, like NBA Youngboy or whoever in this generation...., it sounds like it. just a bunch of trash comes out
It's actually easier to do it right away, because there's little time for interference. One you get it on record, the worry's gone...and you have the play back. It's like jotting down notes right before you give a speech.
 

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Has Jay ever spit a non written during a Freestyle session? NO

Thats not weird to you?
and for years he spit that same written rhymes in many appearances. The DMX battle, Big L WKCR freestyle, and another appearance I saw, he spit that same exact rhyme over and over "I get it together like a marriage...."That same verse on multiple occastions. .
 

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they ruined shyt and I always hated the narrative

they just memorize shyt and recite it in the studio
if nikkas were randomly freestyling and crushing the studio they would have 60 albums and be studied
it really made people look dumb and fukked the game up
jay probably has 20 new songs in his head right now for the past few years waiting
people gonna pretend like he magically thought of it because he plugs new names in and changes a few bars to seem recent
 

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Big was impressive, especially the shyt on Life After Death.

Jay-Z is not impressive. Copying other peoples rhymes and tired coke double entendres that only impress simple minds.
 

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99% of rapper freestyles are writtens, dawg. It's always easy to tell when they're going off the top of the dome because the raps are way more basic, less coherent, and lines tend to bleed into each other. But when you hear a really dope freestyle, it's usually written. Hell back in the 90s when there wasn't internet guys would go on the radio and spit whole verses from their upcoming albums. I've heard Mobb Deep rap all of Trife Life on Stretch & Bobbito and Nas rap the first Memory Lane verse, for example. Big L wouldn't spit whole verses from songs, but a lot of lines from them would get in there.

And Jay never said he freestyles, he just writes and edits it in his head and commits it to memory. Actually fairly simple and I do it a lot when I have to present stuff.

All this here.

Most MC's in the golden era would be on underground radio spitting whole verses from an album that didn't drop yet. All the legends were doing that back in the day. The very few who would be coming off the head all day, like Craig G and Supernat or even Hiero, you could tell those verses were freestyles because they would be talking about sh*t that was going on in the room at the time or describing the clothes dudes had on in front of them. Or they would ask you to give them a random topic to rap about.

Jay is literally coming up with concepts and lyrics while he's in the booth. Most people have recorded this way. It's not some sh*t anyone would need to front about. It's just that Jay's sh*t has really dope lines, and he's lyrically one of the best ever. But the process is done by mad people now, who just don’t get the same results as he does. But back in the 90's, it wasn't as common as it is today.

And the quality of the lyrics is nowhere near what we got from B.I.G. and Jay.
 
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