When you think about how Biggie and Jay-Z have that gift of not writing rhymes it is amazing

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I knew thats what you were implying, but I didn't want to go there, and start a history class.

Those artists are.good,.but don't compare.to Jay Or Biggie. Jay is on another level of complex. I was listening to Reasonable doubt yesterday, and still finding new meanings in his.lyrics. For instance on "can't knock the hustle", he said "Shopping sprees, copping three
Deuce fever IS's fully loaded, ah, yes" .

What he is saying is he is buying a.bmw 325i, and he has a lot if money, but when you hear it done in the song, it matches the meaning of the title of the song, plus he said it in a way only a thinking man would understand. To do that with no pad, then say it on beat.in a witty way, then comnect.it all for the song is genius

As far as toasting, that is a simple form of rapping, it came from American radio djs, Jamaicans were emulating them. The same as early rappers. Djs like Jocko henderson, wolfman jack, and others were doing that rhyming offbeat style. It's not ABC shyt, but nothing compared to what Jay-Z.does. Toasting is an black American form of street poetry, it has origins in the prisons some say. The Dolemite movie with Eddie Murphy on netflix touches on it lightly.

The album "hustlers convention" was a toasting album, it came out in 1973, its what influenced the second generation.of rappers, they all said this. I still listen to it sometimes, its that good. Pigmeat markham's."here come the judge" did as well, but that was released in 1968, and influenced the first generation if rappers like Dj Hollywood.becuase it was more of rhytmntype flow, but EVERYONE,.including Jamaican Djs all were influenced by the American radio djs of the 1950's-1970's, it's why the early rappers flowed like they did. People forget how big the radio dj was at one time.

And Buju Blanton is just rapping like other rappers, he came out way after rap got big in the states so idk why u named him. I remember his first showing, when Boom bye bye came out no one knew what he looked.like, and when I finally saw him, he was a skinny little kid talking tough shyt. That song was a hit when it came out in the streets, that's when dancehall was.the shyt!

You're speaking from an idolatry point of view. Let me know when you're being objective. Peace

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I actually don’t believe any of that. I believe they write there shyt. Maybe not in the studio but they write and just memorized it
That’s exactly what they do. They write their rhymes, memorize them, leave spaces to add producer names and then just record it to a beat in 1 take. That’s why jay sounded the way he did on Renegade because Eminem and Royce rode the beat. Jay just spit some lyrics he had prepared earlier. I can’t believe Mfers still believing as ill as biggie and Jay’s rhymes are that they are composing whole fukking albums in their head in the studio and getting the shyt in one take. Bullshyt!!! Anyone believing jay z wrote 22 2’s in his head sitting in the studio and got it in one take are fukking stupid.


Now this new shyt Jay is doing I believe he’s writing it on the spot lol
 

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Like Jay, yeah.
Y'all some hating muhs, Buju is nice but he is not in the same level as Jay

What it is, is Jay is so complex yet simple, that shyt just goes over a lot if peoples heads. I remember souljah boy said he wasn't crazy about Jay until he started smoking, then he listened to him and saw why he was praised so much

OR it could be just hate because Jay is ADOS. I been through this shyt before, some people just try to downplay anything great from black Americans or Americans in general, so they downplay the greatness some achieved. shyt is so sad if that's the reason for the hate
 

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I actually don’t believe any of that. I believe they write there shyt. Maybe not in the studio but they write and just memorized it

me neither.....no joke....it wouldnt suprise me if someone like Lyor made Jay push this bullshyt ass narrative so that more rappers would try it, and thus further dumb down the music in general.
 

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ODB freestyled his first album according to multiple sources
GZA and RZA wrote most of Dirty's shyt, actually. According to Method Man, Brooklyn Zoo was one of the few songs he actually wrote himself

Hell that Wu documentary on Showtime showed RZA giving ODB a whole verse and practicing it with him and remarks that it was exactly how they did Cuttin Headz too.
 
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