When you use ‘modern’ as an insult and say you’re ‘traditional’…

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so the context and tone when someone gives this description will definitely tell you the intent whether it’s positive negative or neutral… correct? I haven’t Heard the phrase uttered in a neutral way when I’ve heard it said. So in these instances the intent is negative
That would depend on how the person receives it... How is calling women modern negative?
 

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
That nikka ain’t said shyt
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What’s his @ on here
 

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Black folks just need to shut the fukk and find a partner you can build life with. That’s the only way the community will get stronger. That’s the only way the household income numbers will go up for us. I don’t care if you want to do modern or traditional do whatever works for you as a couple.
 

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He sounds stupid
Just another way to defend hoe babble
 
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So, here's the thing.

"Traditional" as we define it today is a somewhat Eurocentric concept.

The idea that American women in the 1950's never had jobs and only depended on men to make money to provide for the whole family on 1 income is rooted in a falsehood that mostly applied to upper class White women.

Upper Class White women in the past were able to live out the "princess" fantasy of having to only watch over their picket fence homes and children while the man handled all the finances and provided for everyone on a high income. But this wasn't universal. Even working class White women(especially immigrants) didn't live this lifestyle. A lot of Irish and Italian immigrant women still worked in sewing factories and other jobs to help make ends meet with their families.

Black women, of course, rarely had that luxury too. In many rural Black Southern families, men were still the breadwinners but tons of people worked, including women and kids. Plenty of Black women worked low wage jobs and many Black kids were pressured to work at young ages too.

Traditionalism is overrated. What's more important is stability and stability is really flexible and not confined to archaic rules.

In 2023, only rural rednecks who live in small towns full of 300 people or wealthy aristocrats can afford to be "traditional." Everyone else must pool their resources together to give their relationships and families a stable lifestyle.

One of the reasons Asians, Jews, and Indians are so successful is because they AREN'T traditional in the 1950's American sense, despite having that reputation. All 3 groups specifically marry women who would be deemed "ball busters" or "career women" but such decisions end up paying off for them in the long run.

Black people can be traditional. Hell, there was a TLC show about a Black family called the Derricos who have like a million kids and the father provided for everyone while the woman stayed at home. But Mr. Derrico has a good job PLUS TLC money so he's playing by different rules than the majority of us.

We need to emphasize STABILITY, not traditionalism. There's a difference but a lot of men focus on traditonalism more because of the Leave It To Beaver/Andy Griffith esque 1950's family myth. It's similar to when people fetishize libertarianism imho.

Black ppl were enslaved in America until the modern period so you got the timelines mixed up. The late 19th - mid 20th century is still the modern era.
 

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That would depend on how the person receives it... How is calling women modern negative?
In the context of those you say it on those fresh & fit adjacent platforms it doesn’t seem like it’s positive… but I take shyt they say with a grain of salt(whenever I see I clip bc I don’t seek them out) bc them cats seem like they have limited genuine life experience. The “game” and relationship advice they provide comes from a “beat it chick” perspective
 
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