Where did the NBA pull this notion that Kyrie Irving was the best finishin guard at the rim? (stats)

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True hinesight is 20/20
But if u win 48 games in a year everyone thought u were rebuilding and u end up with a pg rhats an all nba talent u make him and eb priority

management fukked it all up :pachaha: the gm is what 35 :pachaha: wtf does he know.

The moment you found out what you had in dragic I follow his lead...lets bring in some shooters and a Big.

Just imagine

Dragic
Bledsoe
Booker(sniper)
TJ Warren
Tyson

nikka thats 50+ wins :pachaha::pachaha::pachaha::pachaha::pachaha:

shyt LMA may have came if he saw all of that
 

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I think Kyrie has the best body control we've seen since Kobe. The numbers may not reflect that but you can see it in his finishes.
 

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The only difference I can see is Kyrie does it in traffic with 4's and 5's set up at the rim. IT does it a little, but not as well as Kyrie.
 

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i) Don't just look at their percentages but also take into account how many attempts they have near the rim or heavily favor one side of the rim (e.g. Clarkson only takes half the attempts that Kyrie does near the rim - it's similar to calling Kawhi a better 3-pt shooter than Curry)
ii) Those percentages don't take into account the # of players defending the shot or the difficulty of the shot
iii) Those percentages don't take into account the game situation or the defensive attention
iv) No player in the league has a better finishing skillset than Kyrie, with either hand
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vi)


Ya those numbers heavily favor players that score a lot on 1 on none breakaways and other transition situations
 

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Ok so here is some better stats..
NBA.com player tracking stats have stats for "drives" - defined as any play that begins 20 feet or more away from the basket with the ball being dribbled within 10 feet of the basket. Excludes fast break.

Last year, among PGs, only Westbrook scored more points on drives and only Curry and Rose scored more points per drive, then Kyrie.
 

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i) Don't just look at their percentages but also take into account how many attempts they have near the rim or heavily favor one side of the rim (e.g. Clarkson only takes half the attempts that Kyrie does near the rim - it's similar to calling Kawhi a better 3-pt shooter than Curry)
ii) Those percentages don't take into account the # of players defending the shot or the difficulty of the shot
iii) Those percentages don't take into account the game situation or the defensive attention
iv) No player in the league has a better finishing skillset than Kyrie, with either hand
v)
vi)


that's high level artistry
the guys game is aesthetically top tier
a crazy smooth finish from kyrie>>>>>>a banger from 99.9% of nikkas point blank.

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All this says to me is that Kyrie is better scorer than most of the big name PGs and Westbrook is terrible.
 

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why do you think they won 48 games when they were projected to win like 17 that year.....it's like philly coming into this season and winning 48 games.....Dragic and Bledsoe really carried that team. They were on the rise and they fukked it all up. They brought in I.T, drafted Tdot Ennis, and had dragic playing off the ball with him at the 3.

I.T and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He hated it and demanded a trade :manny: suns are now back to being irrelevant. Now in the suns defense, they weren't sure if they were going to pay Bledsoe because he was coming off a Knee injury so they wanted some insurance.

Dragic wasn't staying regardless of whether I.T. was there or not
 
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