Where Have All the Rioters Gone?

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Maybe folks have figured out that riots don't change the system, but they do destabilize
poor and marginalized communities even further, preparing them so people like the author of this article
can later move in with their kale and mocha latte markets.

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Maybe folks have figured out that riots don't change the system, but they do destabilize
poor and marginalized communities even further, preparing them so people like the author of this article
can later move in with their kale and mocha latte markets.

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That's not true at all.

Gentrification was gonna amp whether or not the uprisings in 2015 in Bmore or LA in '92 happened or not.

If anything there needs to be more direct action towards those responsible for the injustices we currently deal with.
 

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That's not true at all.

Gentrification was gonna amp whether or not the uprisings in 2015 in Bmore or LA in '92 happened or not.

If anything there needs to be more direct action towards those responsible for the injustices we currently deal with.

Wiping out the infrastructures of the neighborhoods we live and work in is not direct action.

During the L.A. Riots in 92, while institutions like one of the oldest black-owned bookstores in the nation was destroyed, the Beverly Center and the Hollywood studios went untouched.
 

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Wiping out the infrastructures of the neighborhoods we live and work in is not direct action.

During the L.A. Riots in 92, while institutions like one of the oldest black-owned bookstores in the nation was destroyed, the Beverly Center and the Hollywood studios went untouched.

Actually it is. I'm not saying it's right in this instance but, storefronts can be replaced.

I'm just not following your line of thinking that rioting is what makes it easy for cacs to move in
 

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I open the link and immediately saw that picture in my header. I grew up in those projects in the picture. My aunt works in that restaurant and has for over 20 years. I didn't even read the article. That picture is amazing.
 

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Actually it is. I'm not saying it's right in this instance but, storefronts can be replaced.

I'm just not following your line of thinking that rioting is what makes it easy for cacs to move in

What he's saying is that when riots take place the people that own the property and businesses that get destroyed aren't the one's doing the rioting nor are they the ones doing the oppressing. They are innocent victims of misdirected anger. It's easy to say just rebuild what was lost but why would someone want to spend money rebuilding a business to serve the very community that just destroyed it.

It's more likely that the owners will take their insurance money and move on, selling the property to someone with no ties to the community. This accelerates the rate of gentrification.
 

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What he's saying is that when riots take place the people that own the property and businesses that get destroyed aren't the one's doing the rioting nor are they the ones doing the oppressing. They are innocent victims of misdirected anger. It's easy to say just rebuild what was lost but why would someone want to spend money rebuilding a business to serve the very community that just destroyed it.

It's more likely that the owners will take their insurance money and move on, selling the property to someone with no ties to the community. This accelerates the rate of gentrification.
not true when it comes to the L.A> riots. not true at all.

most of the stores that were destroyed/looted/burned down were never black owned. they were owned by koreans( i would say asians but that would not be specific enough). black people in that era in that community had bad run ins with the local korean stores due to the koreans disrespecting all customers by following you around their stores assuming you were going to steal something. did some people steal some things from them? YEP. but you knew that when you signed up and bought land/store in a super low income community. and at the same token everyone wasnt doing the stealing, there were a select few people who did. so you knew it wasnt every customer. so why disrespect your customers like that? now that wasnt all of them that was a most of them. some were super cool and those stores for the most part were saved. in addition, they brought in a lot of liquor stores into the hood. did poor blacks and browns need that much upcharged liquor? NO.(its cheaper to get liquor at the grocery store than it is to get it from the liquor store. so you're paying a poor tax with that too. so if those went up in smoke, who cares? the community didnt need 20 liquor stores to fill up 20 corners anyway. lastly, there was a time where those same store owners would hire people from the community. WHICH MEANS the dollars aint coming back into the community. again who needs that if we're talking about those living there?
 

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Slightly off topic:
Some of the saddest shyt you can see driving through South LA(or any impoverished community) are the remnants of an eviction.

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yup.. all the black businesses refuse to come back after the riots

and if you got that type of insurance money especially if your business wasn't making nothing, why even come back
 

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not true when it comes to the L.A> riots. not true at all.

most of the stores that were destroyed/looted/burned down were never black owned. they were owned by koreans( i would say asians but that would not be specific enough). black people in that era in that community had bad run ins with the local korean stores due to the koreans disrespecting all customers by following you around their stores assuming you were going to steal something. did some people steal some things from them? YEP. but you knew that when you signed up and bought land/store in a super low income community. and at the same token everyone wasnt doing the stealing, there were a select few people who did. so you knew it wasnt every customer. so why disrespect your customers like that? now that wasnt all of them that was a most of them. some were super cool and those stores for the most part were saved. in addition, they brought in a lot of liquor stores into the hood. did poor blacks and browns need that much upcharged liquor? NO.(its cheaper to get liquor at the grocery store than it is to get it from the liquor store. so you're paying a poor tax with that too. so if those went up in smoke, who cares? the community didnt need 20 liquor stores to fill up 20 corners anyway. lastly, there was a time where those same store owners would hire people from the community. WHICH MEANS the dollars aint coming back into the community. again who needs that if we're talking about those living there?

The race of the business owners doesn't change the fact that the anger of the rioters was misdirected at them. The L.A. riots were a response to the police getting away with systematic brutality and racism.

While the store owners you described may have been racist, I can't say they deserved to have their business destroyed. You say they followed customers around in response to some people stealing. That will feel disrespectful as a customer that knows they aren't stealing anything but they have a right to protect their business just as any customer has a right to not spend money with that business.
 

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It is an highly-false assumption that every store or institution in our communities is a price-gouging, immigrant-owned liquor store or bodega.

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Alfred and Bernice Ligon were the proprietors and owners of the Aquarian Bookshop and Aquarian Spiritual Center in Los Angeles, CA, the longest continuously owned black bookstore in the U.S.

The Aquarian Bookshop was unfortunately a casualty of the 1992 Los Angeles riots, and was burned to the ground with 7,000 books inside. A group of independent bookstores collectively organized to raise money to rebuild the bookshop, and also held a benefit featuring Maya Angelou and Alice Walker. Together, they collected $70,000 to reopen the store, which was short lived as the store closed in 1994 after Bernice was diagnosed with liver cancer.

The Aquarian Age | Los Angeles Archivists Collective
 

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yup.. all the black businesses refuse to come back after the riots

and if you got that type of insurance money especially if your business wasn't making nothing, why even come back

And when the devastated riot area is rebuilt, it will be non-black contractors, architects, planners, construction companies, insurers and developers who will reap economic windfall from a black community destroyed.
 
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