Where is the big Trump/Impeachment thread? I don't see it.

[the cac mamba]

Short answer: No.

so you can actually say with a straight face that without russia, donald trump wouldn't have won the election. like he needed russia to use his racist dog whistles to appeal to the average redneck piece of shyt white voter in the middle of the country. that is fukking delusional i can tell you emphatically that YES, trump wins without "russian interference"

you guys are really letting this napoleon dikkriding thread cloud your judgment you know why hillary didnt get called out for her criminality? because the powers that be didnt want to upset the apple cart. the same thing will happen with trump, and no one important will go to jail. so feel free to keep your fingers crossed instead of focusing on real issues

 

[Black Panther]

so you can actually say with a straight face that without russia, donald trump wouldn't have won the election. like he needed russia to use his racist dog whistles to appeal to the average redneck piece of shyt white voter in the middle of the country. that is fukking delusional

Good job skimming my post, genius.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: There were many factors involved in Trump's election, but white racism and conspiracy theories about Democrats were two of the main drives for Trump voters. It's not a coincidence that Russia (and Israel, not surprisingly) realized that.

This doesn't mean votes were altered--I fully believe America is that racist without interference--but Russia's meddling started over a decade ago by building rapport with right-wing politicians, pundits, and media influencers. They played on the insecurities of white conservatives to drive their narratives in the West.

 

[the cac mamba]

Good job skimming my post, genius.

im obviously not implying that you didnt know that, but the idea that trump would have lost if russia didnt exist is just laughable you WANT that to be true to validate the napoleon thread. but it isnt true

 

[Black Panther]

the idea that trump would have lost if russia didnt exist is just laughable

I think it's pretty plausible, actually, but we can agree to disagree :cpagehubie:

you WANT that to be true to validate the napoleon thread

You seem to be quite knowledgeable about my intentions. :bppatrice:

 

[the cac mamba]

I think it's pretty plausible, actually, but we can agree to disagree :cpagehubie:

it's pretty simple

to observe objectively; trump ran as an anti-establishment, "different" candidate that connected with voters, against the most establishment candidate the dems could have possibly run. mix that with a large dose of white racism and resentment, and it was a wrap i dont see at what point russia plays into this, at all

sending out some fukkin facebook memes

 

[acri1]

im obviously not implying that you didnt know that, but the idea that trump would have lost if russia didnt exist is just laughable you WANT that to be true to validate the napoleon thread. but it isnt true

It's not like Trump won in a landslide. Not only was it close but he lost the popular vote.

You don't think it's plausible that Russian propaganda was enough influence a few tens of thousands of voters in swing states?

 

[the cac mamba]

It's not like Trump won in a landslide. Not only was it close but he lost the popular vote.

You don't think it's plausible that Russian propaganda was enough influence a few tens of thousands of voters in swing states?

no, i dont. i dont think russia presented anything that people couldn't and wouldnt have come up with themselves people have known what hillary clinton was about for 20 years

be specific with me; propaganda that said what? calling her "crooked hillary" was infinitely more effective than anything you're about to tell me

 

[General Mills]

im not laying out a fukking ban bet for longer than 6 months thats not even any fun

on the contrary, the fact that none of you are convinced mueller can indict by the midterms, which would be a year and a half, makes your daily, hourly following of the trump thread laughable it's a 3 year process but we need to un-ban napoleon so he can give you updates every 15 minutes? i dont think so

I fukks with this post

 

[acri1]

no, i dont. i dont think russia presented anything that people couldn't and wouldnt have come up with themselves people have known what hillary clinton was about for 20 years

be specific with me; propaganda that said what? calling her "crooked hillary" was infinitely more effective than anything you're about to tell me

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...how-russians-interfered-2016-election-n848746

Throughout the 2016 campaign, the "specialists" created thematic groups on social media, touching on topics such as immigration, the Black Lives Matter movement and religion to sow discord in the election, the indictment said. The accounts were primarily used to disparage Clinton while supporting Sen. Bernie Sanders, Clinton's opponent in Democratic primary, and Trump. They were also used to push false allegations of voter fraud and boost certain hashtags: #Trump2016, #IWontProtectHillary, #TrumpTrain and #Hillary4Prison.

During the latter half of 2016, the Russians also made a concerted effort to encourage minority voters not to vote in the 2016 election, or to vote for a third-party candidate. As an example, the indictment cites a specialist-run Instagram account "Woke Blacks," which posted in October 2016 that a "particular hype and hatred for Trump is misleading the people and forcing Blacks to vote for Killary. We cannot resort to the lesser of two devils. Then we'd surely be better off without voting AT ALL."

Not sure why you think it's impossible that a persistent propaganda campaign would swing a close election. Guess you think American voters are above being influenced by this.

 

[the cac mamba]

'Information warfare': How Russians interfered in 2016 election




Not sure why you think it's impossible that a persistent propaganda campaign would swing a close election. Guess you think American voters are above being influenced by this.

i think that they would have voted the way they did anyway

at the end of the day, neither of us can prove our case with facts. i certainly dont deny that russia WANTED trump to win

frankly, there's about as much proof that russian memes swung the election as there is that voter fraud happened; little to none

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

we could find life on mars and this guy's reaction would be "i bet hillary's on mars too"

 

[the cac mamba]

we could find life on mars and this guy's reaction would be "i bet hillary's on mars too"

 

[Pressure]

It's funny because @the cac mama's entire shtick reads like Russian propaganda. :DameMJLol: