Where was God ?

[Methodical]

No, He thought he was as important as God, but God kicked him out of Heaven with his band of idiots (fallen angels). His only goal now is to get as many people out of the will of God as he can, and have company as he's taking his punishment for the rest of eternity in the Lake of Fire.

People need to understand that God is not threatened by anything Satan or man can do. He tries to help man. All of the words He's spoken years ago, are just as valid as they were when He said them, and will be forever. Everything He says is true. He can't lie. Because we are in a sinful state, we are the one's who are not worthy to even look at Him. But that's why He sent His son (the Saviour)....to take that punishment we deserved, because only a pure (without sin) being could take the punishment meant for us. The only thing He asks us to do is acknowledge Him, accept his son as Saviour, make Him God of our life, and do what He says to do by putting away the sinful things that keep us from getting close to Him.

Ok,..... it seems your answer according to biblical accounts, etc. But how did he develop this spiteful lust for God's power? I understand that according to the story, he became envious and angry at God, and several people have offered that as an explanation. But how did he develop such evil thoughts and desires in the first place?

That's what I've been asking.I suppose if anyone believe in the Jesus Christ, Bible (Words of God) goes to heaven but will you still have own your free-will just like Lucifer was in the heaven?

 

[Chrishaune]

@Chrishaune I do believe in GOD but some story is odd to me.

According to the story, the devil is in fact a former angel who somehow came to resent God and decided to rebel against him. But how could this be? If Lucifer existed in the immediate presence of God, and never experienced any other environment or influence, whence came his feelings and ideas of jealousy and disobedience?

Adam and Eve sinned because they were tempted by the devil; before he came along, they were living in perfect bliss that otherwise would have lasted forever. But obviously Lucifer the angel had no such temptor.

What would inspire an angel, created for the sole purpose of serving God, and living his entire life in the immediate company of that supposedly perfect God, to rebel? Where did Lucifer's evil come from? Was it wired into his mind by God himself?

For some idiotic reason and the Bible doesn't exactly say why....Lucifer began to think he was as powerful as God and could do what God could do.

God made Lucifer as the most beautiful and one of, if not the most, powerful angels in Heaven. He was the top Angel in Heaven at the time.

But as was stated earlier, God knew all of these things were going to happen, because that's just in his nature. He knows everything that is going to happen. He watched Satan make a fool of himself and let the two-thirds of the good Angels that didn't rebel, toss the bad Angels(Satan and the demons).

Some of the good Angels are assigned to protect us in our everyday lives, up to the point that we're suppose to die. Then they escort us to Heaven. The Angels will have a judgement day too, and we will help judge how our angels did on their assignment.

 

[Mac Brown]

And what you are saying is wrong. Those subfactions of satanism u mentioned are all methods of harvesting the fruit from the tree of knowledge. The gifts of satan. The means of defiling life if u will.

You think youre thinking deeply about this but youre creating theories when there is a document thats 100% fact, no theories period.

dude, get over this satan/god shyt, It was only old writings used by humans who had no technology or understanding to explain the nature of earth or the nature of humanity.

there is no ONE truth. No one knows and that is okay. why not just acknowledge that and move on.

 

[Mac Brown]

For some idiotic reason and the Bible doesn't exactly say why....Lucifer began to think he was as powerful as God and could do what God could do.

God made Lucifer as the most beautiful and one of, if not the most, powerful angels in Heaven. He was the top Angel in Heaven at the time.

But as was stated earlier, God knew all of these things were going to happen, because that's just in his nature. He knows everything that is going to happen. He watched Satan make a fool of himself and let the two-thirds of the good Angels that didn't rebel, toss the bad Angels(Satan and the demons).


This is what I'm getting at, at its core. Why not just drop all of the dogma and just live and try to enjoy life. Should life be lived only trying to figure it out, (which is damned near impossible) or just try to enjoy this existence?

 

[Chrishaune]

Ok,..... it seems your answer according to biblical accounts, etc. But how did he develop this spiteful lust for God's power? I understand that according to the story, he became envious and angry at God, and several people have offered that as an explanation. But how did he develop such evil thoughts and desires in the first place?

That's what I've been asking.I suppose if anyone believe in the Jesus Christ, Bible (Words of God) goes to heaven but will you still have own your free-will just like Lucifer was in the heaven?

Yeah, free will won't be done away with. But when you've struggled and made your way to Heaven (perfection) why would you turn against God? We are not even as powerful as the Angels are, and they are weak compared to God. Who are we to think that we know better than God? God could destroy us with a thought. Would you want to make somebody like that an enemy?

I know some people think Heaven is going to be a place where you do everything God says, yes. But you will also have time to have fun. It's going to be a place where people from thousands of years ago live. I want to meet those people. And there will be new people who live after us too in the New Jerusalem. People will still be born and life will still go on. The people who are in Heaven will help God to reign over the people who live in the new era. Now whether this means that people will be traveling all around the solar system and living on different planets, I don't know. But that is a possibility.

 

[jjj123]

@Chrishaune I do believe in GOD but some story is odd to me.

According to the story, the devil is in fact a former angel who somehow came to resent God and decided to rebel against him. But how could this be? If Lucifer existed in the immediate presence of God, and never experienced any other environment or influence, whence came his feelings and ideas of jealousy and disobedience?

Adam and Eve sinned because they were tempted by the devil; before he came along, they were living in perfect bliss that otherwise would have lasted forever. But obviously Lucifer the angel had no such temptor.

What would inspire an angel, created for the sole purpose of serving God, and living his entire life in the immediate company of that supposedly perfect God, to rebel? Where did Lucifer's evil come from? Was it wired into his mind by God himself?

Yahawah sought to created something in his likeness but bearing life, from the tree of life. Lucifer, the highest angel, became furious and jealous over our creation. So he waged war. Tempted eve. With that sin death came, as we accepted satans deal with falling from grace through the tree of knowledge. Lucifer seeks dominion over earth. All these false religions and worldwide temples/structured were part of Lucifer's brainwashing. He basiaclly invaded earth. They sought to pollute human blood to stop the birth of the Messiah Yahawashi. Didnt work. But Lucifer still has dominion over earth even to this very day. The rightful owner reclaim what was taken from him...

 

[Methodical]

For some idiotic reason and the Bible doesn't exactly say why....Lucifer began to think he was as powerful as God and could do what God could do.

God made Lucifer as the most beautiful and one of, if not the most, powerful angels in Heaven. He was the top Angel in Heaven at the time.

But as was stated earlier, God knew all of these things were going to happen, because that's just in his nature. He knows everything that is going to happen. He watched Satan make a fool of himself and let the two-thirds of the good Angels that didn't rebel, toss the bad Angels(Satan and the demons).

Some of the good Angels are assigned to protect us in our everyday lives, up to the point that we're suppose to die. Then they escort us to Heaven. The Angels will have a judgement day too, and we will help judge how our angels did on their assignment.

It is said that God knew of Lucifer's intentions from the beginning and it was all part of his plan. so then recapping: God Designed Lucifer to become jealous so that he would turn from God so than mankind would be lead into temptation. Now that mankind are sinners (why, i don't know? only two people commited the crime) they need to seek redemption from God, but to make himself more accessable and absolve mankind of their sins he put himself on earth as a man to be crucified.

God created the abilty in Lucifer to have a sinful amount of pride. Why?.....again.. why not leave all that out and just not create Lucifer as a little bytch?


Well say otherwise Lucifer would be a robot. So what he would be a robot for God and serve perfectly.

What are you saying, that it is better to have being that do bad and good rather then good alone??...then God must be boring if he's making the world to be perfect and there would be no point? he's toying with us.

 

[Chrishaune]

It is said that God knew of Lucifer's intentions from the beginning and it was all part of his plan. so then recapping: God Designed Lucifer to become jealous so that he would turn from God so than mankind would be lead into temptation. Now that mankind are sinners (why, i don't know? only two people commited the crime) they need to seek redemption from God, but to make himself more accessable and absolve mankind of their sins he put himself on earth as a man to be crucified.

God created the abilty in Lucifer to have a sinful amount of pride. Why?.....again.. why not leave all that out and just not create Lucifer as a little bytch?


Well say otherwise Lucifer would be a robot. So what he would be a robot for God and serve perfectly.

What are you saying, that it is better to have being that do bad and good rather then good alone??...then God must be boring if he's making the world to be perfect and there would be no point? he's toying with us.

Obviously God is powerful enough to allow situations to happen. He doesn't punish the just. He punishes the one's who rebel against Him. The one's who make it to the other side into His Kingdom will know why, because He will tell us. More than likely the one's who are in the Lake of Fire will always question why it happened to them, they will be in the dark forever. The only way to find out why is to live like He wants you to. To have a relationship with him by talking to Him (pray), and to read His Word. To know what He has said is the starting point. And when you get to Heaven you can ask Him all of the questions you want.

 

[jjj123]

dude, get over this satan/god shyt, It was only old writings used by humans who had no technology or understanding to explain the nature of earth or the nature of humanity.

there is no ONE truth. No one knows and that is okay. why not just acknowledge that and move on.

I know it, i know it in every fibre of my being. As a former atheist, you cant tell me 1 thing about not knowing the one and only truth. For it is, and i know it. I know it. I know it.

As for the 1st paragraph what do u tjink the tree of knowledge is?

 

[jjj123]

It is said that God knew of Lucifer's intentions from the beginning and it was all part of his plan. so then recapping: God Designed Lucifer to become jealous so that he would turn from God so than mankind would be lead into temptation. Now that mankind are sinners (why, i don't know? only two people commited the crime) they need to seek redemption from God, but to make himself more accessable and absolve mankind of their sins he put himself on earth as a man to be crucified.

God created the abilty in Lucifer to have a sinful amount of pride. Why?.....again.. why not leave all that out and just not create Lucifer as a little bytch?


Well say otherwise Lucifer would be a robot. So what he would be a robot for God and serve perfectly.

What are you saying, that it is better to have being that do bad and good rather then good alone??...then God must be boring if he's making the world to be perfect and there would be no point? he's toying with us.

God did not create lucifer to be a future adversary

 

[itsyoung!!]

People die every day sometimes in heinous ways, even in the bible. Prophets were killed, even the Son of God crucified.

Men has free will in this wicked world and some use their free will to harm others.

Life on earth is short, but everyone meets their maker and all things have a maker.

But does God still write in scripture or does he type on an ipad now

when people die with they phone do they get to take it to Heaven ?

do you age in Heaven ? if you do, would my Grandma die again from old age by the time im dead ? If heaven is where you go when you die, what if you die in Heaven , where do you go from there ?

 

[Methodical]

Obviously God is powerful enough to allow situations to happen. He doesn't punish the just. He punishes the one's who rebel against Him. The one's who make it to the other side into His Kingdom will know why, because He will tell us. More than likely the one's who are in the Lake of Fire will always question why it happened to them, they will be in the dark forever. The only way to find out why is to live like He wants you to. To have a relationship with him by talking to Him (pray), and to read His Word. To know what he has said is the starting point. And when you get to Heaven you can ask Him all of the questions you want.

Good discussion...about to go to bed soon.

By the way. Some people said when people go to Heaven, their age will be 33 because of Jesus died at 33.

 

[Chrishaune]

Good discussion...about to go to bed soon.

By the way. Some people said when people go to Heaven, their age will be 33 because of Jesus died at 33.

I don't know about that, but everybody will be perfect in appearance. So there won't be any blemishes and they'll probably have a radiant quality to them. Kind of how we think of what Angels look like. Just being that close to God probably gives you a special type of glow in your appearance.

 

[Rue]

But does God still write in scripture or does he type on an ipad now

when people die with they phone do they get to take it to Heaven ?

do you age in Heaven ? if you do, would my Grandma die again from old age by the time im dead ? If heaven is where you go when you die, what if you die in Heaven , where do you go from there ?

in heaven you will live forever, there will be no heartache, sorrow, only happiness

 

[Methodical]

I don't know about that, but everybody will be perfect in appearance. So there won't be any blemishes and they'll probably have a radiant quality to them. Kind of how we think of what Angels look like.

Okay.....there are many babies died born or had some any serious illnes/deases

Do they would exist in Heaven with the exact size as they was baby or turn into an adult form as "33" or they didn't EXIST in Heaven?