Which did more damage to on-air long storylines that killed any chance of someone getting over and made everything make a little less sense?
Which Did More Damage: Battleground PPV Ending or Frail Sabin's Title Reign?
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AquaCityBoy
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The Battleground ending ruined what could have been one of the best wrestling angles in years. This shyt is McMahon-Hemsley regime status now. 
TNA was already shyt, so giving a vanilla midget a struggle reign didn't really affect things one way or the other.
TNA was already shyt, so giving a vanilla midget a struggle reign didn't really affect things one way or the other.
I agree... although I still think Sabin's random ass title reign ruined: AJ's tweener come-uppance of redemption of winning the title, Bully Ray's invincibility, and ruin Bound For Struggle's main event.The Battleground ending ruined what could have been one of the best wrestling angles in years. This shyt is McMahon-Hemsley regime status now.
TNA was already shyt, so giving a vanilla midget a struggle reign didn't really affect things one way or the other.
Dog Based Gremlin
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Who takes WWE seriously in the months of September and October. The ppvs in this month have been filler for years
TNA died when they put the title on that injury prone faggit then they turned him heel. Bully Ray should have been that "Hollywood Hogan" status and Dark AJ Styles at Bound 4 Glory
TNA died when they put the title on that injury prone faggit then they turned him heel. Bully Ray should have been that "Hollywood Hogan" status and Dark AJ Styles at Bound 4 Glory
The default is TNA, just because of how the situation is with WWE. Bryan can survive any fukkery, he can get buried to Upper-Midcard for months, and still will be a main draw. The same with Orton, and Big Show. The storyline is a gigantic turd. At least though the fukkery is solid, because we are used to Show being bi-curious with the alignment.
TNA though was just weird. Just because they gave Sabin the title. The fans didn't buy into it from the beginning because, Sabin didn't deserve the title but was granted Aries perks. Now the next entire year will be, "You remember when Sabin was a transitional champ when he won the belt from Bully to drop it to Bully". The shyt happened with Lex Luger and Hogan, but Lex was a legit main eventer for WCW at times.
The Bully character and the reign had already been ruined just being associated with the weak Aces angle. They were never able to establish a Selfish Generation Roode-like vibe with his run. I'm not sure they payoff would have been much better had they not given the belt to Sabin. Plus they completely botched the darkside AJ character and his transition back to P1 wasn't as special as it should have been.
On the other hand, the E has a brand new star emerging and they keep fukking around with payoff results and a poor adversary. D-Bry's chance isn't over by any means and he's still crazy over, but I'm wondering how they plan on creating another big payoff situation for him.
On the other hand, the E has a brand new star emerging and they keep fukking around with payoff results and a poor adversary. D-Bry's chance isn't over by any means and he's still crazy over, but I'm wondering how they plan on creating another big payoff situation for him.
AKM-95
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Honestly, I don't think the selfish generation should of ended when it did. I think a much better story would of been Roode the unbeatable champ v Darkside Styles, and then Bully should of came in as the Antagonist who feuds with styles. But to answer your question, I think the bigger blunder was Frail winning the title. Only because if you're going to do a title change that close to build-up to a main PPV, I think you should honestly stick with it. They could of easily did a 3 way between Frail, Bully, and AJ or they could of done a ROH-ish gradual champ heel turn. On the E side of things Bryan is white-hot. so they would have to literally kill his character in the ring for him to lose momentum right now. I'm not saying that WWE booking of the storyline is great, I just think they feel they have nothing to lose right now with Cena and shame-us coming back.
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Storyline wise, I completely agree. And I guess that was the original question.
Everything they've done, going back to banning AJ from a title shot from one year, has been for this moment. And they completely ruined any chance of it being a big deal with a transitional Chris Sabin run that nobody was asking for. When Bully drops the title, there won't be that 'finally' type of reaction.
But what I was saying was that they had screwed up everything already, so I'm not sure how much damage the Frail run actually did. Aces & 8s was a complete disaster that was dragging down the Bully run anyways. But I'd still agree that the Frail run did more damage to BFG than Battleground did to anything involving Bry. TNA gotta hit that complete reset after BFG. shyt is a mess.
Everything they've done, going back to banning AJ from a title shot from one year, has been for this moment. And they completely ruined any chance of it being a big deal with a transitional Chris Sabin run that nobody was asking for. When Bully drops the title, there won't be that 'finally' type of reaction.
But what I was saying was that they had screwed up everything already, so I'm not sure how much damage the Frail run actually did. Aces & 8s was a complete disaster that was dragging down the Bully run anyways. But I'd still agree that the Frail run did more damage to BFG than Battleground did to anything involving Bry. TNA gotta hit that complete reset after BFG. shyt is a mess.
Heel Dixie better reset and give us that Christopher Daniels TNA Heavyweight Title run in 2014.
PopOnCloud9
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I say the Sabin frail run. With the E you expect this kind of fukkery. Not to get all smarky on this but when you think about it with Hell in a Cell around the corner and the GOAT special ref thrown into the mix the sheep return immediately and we'll forget that battleground trash as long as Hell in a Cell delivers. We've been neck deep in nonsense with the E before but we are still here. As for TNA being on flop watch every step is crucial especially when it comes to the main title and their bread and butter storyline.
See, Daniels is the kind of guy that wouldn't move the business needle, but would be fun to see (and deserving) as champ. I don't get where the Sabin thing came from.
Brad Piff
The Money & The Miles
im not showing up to that shyt
i only know 1 person IRL that watches tna and he had told me about bfg being here wonderin if id go with him if he went
at the time i said maybe but that i didnt really want to
well it turns out chappelle is holding a show that same night here in downtown sd so im going to that instead
if my friend somehow ends up still going he's taking the smarten up dixie sign so i'll let u guys know whether to look out for it or not
honestly though i dont think i could live with myself if i went to a ppv where the main event featured bubba ray dudley as heavyweight champion