Which Ethnic group besides African Americans have the most Swag ?

Which has the most swagger

  • Ghanian

    Votes: 7 6.5%
  • Mexicans

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Puerto Ricans

    Votes: 12 11.2%
  • Haitians

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • Jamaicans

    Votes: 69 64.5%
  • Italians

    Votes: 15 14.0%
  • Irish

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Russian

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Bahamian

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Tanzanians

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Domnican

    Votes: 8 7.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 17 15.9%

  • Total voters
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AADOS men created the concepts of game, smoothness, drip, swag, sauce, and even the concept of being "cool" itself(which is why we'll always be solidified number 1 on this list). Most of them at their core had nothing to do with name brand clothes. It's *outsiders* tryna mimick us who simplify it to that.
Cool (aesthetic) - Wikipedia

Style, sure to some extent, but that doesn't just include clothes but jewelry, hair style, shades, and the unique ways of wearing certain clothing items and mixing and matching with others as well. But much more than that, the essence of it lies in the aura, demeanor, mannerism of the individual. In fact, the mouthpiece is more important than clothes when it comes to those things in our culture. But, it outwardly manifest in many different ways such as in physical gestures, non-verbal sound ques like the "chk-chk”, rhythm of basic speech and movements like while walking etc etc and other little quirks.
You're taking the socio-economic conditions that gave rise to your version of "cool", as being entirely unique.That same aura of non-chalance,calm smooth talking etc. was/is also present in many cultures around the world and is associated with specific socio-economic classes who don't even speak English, from Western Europe to Communist Russia to Africa.

Due to the fact that black people in the diaspora had better musical skill than majority of the world, it is not uncommon to find AA/Jamaican influence in urban culture, especially Africa, but it can't be wholesale, since people will straight out call you out for trying to be what you are not.It is not a coincidence that every culture has its own slang, preferred dressing style, dance styles etc. that are dictated by the youth from specific socio-economic classes.
 
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:russ: at Nigerians. Tight suits with no deodorant is swag? I fk with Naija but no swag at all

It's Jamaicans, Italians and then like Russian Eastern Europeans
 

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This thread is a little ayo but since i'm bored I'll take a crack at it

I think this is another thread where being from NY or at least travelled to other places gives you an idea for this "swag"breakdown.

Swag is basically your aura. Music, cuisine, image etc and like it or not, bussing you gun is seen as swag as well.


Now I see people mentioning or voting for Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. I can see your point kind of but no lmao. I worked in Spanish Harlem for 6 years, having 10 Puerto Rican Flags and 7 tweety bird tats are not swag. Yea, some will get into that knife work if need be but their aura of sleeping with family members and alot being undercover sus is not a good look.

Kind of the Same with alot of Africans (Nigerians) don't know how to scam right and make the shi* look corny, look at 116 vs Flatbush and tell me the difference. There's no Nigerian Shower Posse that's gonna make some shake, they mostly do online scams, push dvds and sh* on 125th.

Now when I worked in BayRidge (A Russian neigborhood) which is right next to Bensonhurst (Italian neigborhood) the difference between them and the regular crackers was apparent. Most of these mf were in foreigns and hugo boss and all that euro shi*. Now of course they're mobbed up and for some reason there's no police busts but that
s another story. My old russian co worker was a cool guy but never smiled once and used to have Vodka in the breakroom and talk about basketball and pimpin* bytches. Even most Eastern Euro's in the NBA move a certain way, they don't try to be overly black either but you can tell they seen some shi* and just about business most time.

Italians, I don't hav to elaborate really you all ready know, but once again all 3 groups will buss that gun

All 3 groups I mentioned will buss that gun. Jamaican music is global phenomenon so much to the fact that like someone else said, a sub genre of people who don't even speak English based it off Dancehall, not to mention the Hip hop influence. Afro beats as well, Burna Boy and Wizkid are all Beenie man, Vybz Kartel junior. The fact that Jamaicans just like the Eastern Europeans are seen as rude also helps like it or not. Like someone mentioned, I've been to Toronto 8 times. My favorite city bar none, lot of family there. For the life of me, I can not comprehend a city that is an "ethical mosaic" has immigrants from a country of 2.9 million people completely take over the city's culture. Asian and white people saying ting and waste man. My cousin's white friend picking me up from the airport and playing Sizzla :mjlol:. Same with London.
 

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Hehee, what is the definition, wearing white owned brands or just being a calm, cool & relaxed people?Most regular Africans don't wear name brands but we also don't give a fukk about it and are easy to be around(what numerous foreigners have told me).But of course, what is "cool" in one culture is "wack" in another, and it varies from individual to individual, but style has been so materialized in the western media it's a parody at this point.

What's a regular African?
 

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You're taking the socio-economic conditions that gave rise to your version of "cool", as being entirely unique.That same aura of non-chalance,calm smooth talking etc. was/is also present in many cultures around the world and is associated with specific socio-economic classes who don't even speak English, from Western Europe to Communist Russia to Africa.

Due to the fact that black people in the diaspora had better musical skill than majority of the world, it is not uncommon to find AA/Jamaican influence in urban culture, especially Africa, but it can't be wholesale, since people will straight out call you out for trying to be what you are not.It is not a coincidence that every culture has its own slang, preferred dressing style, dance styles etc. that are dictated by the youth from specific socio-economic classes.

Dude, these are concepts that arose from from a uniquely AADOS male experience. Point blank period. Not simply from a "low socio economic standing" . shyt indians in india expereince that, but they ain't got shyt close to a mack, playa, or pimp culture.

Because like I said before these concepts unlike other cultures have a sensual, soulful(where the smooth element comes from), and passive aggressive element to them, cuz they were born out a out of the black american courting/seduction practices and underground sex industry, with strong influences from the black church, prison, and street culture to an extent.

How many other ppl experience being a marginalized formely enslaved MINORITY population under a WS society?

And shyt you could got back even further and argue that the soulful influence had its roots in the banishment of hand drums and large gathering of slaves except for church during slavery which ONLY happened in the US, which let to a music tradition that placed much more emphasis on solo performances, vocals and melodies when compared other parts of the new world where heavy rhythms and large ensembles were preferred.

shyt the term "rap" at first had nothing to do with music per say, but spittin game and slick talkin, usually while rhyming in our culture.

I find it funny, cuz when whites, hispanics, africans, WIs and other want to ridicule AADOS one of the first thing they talk about is our "broken" family structure and "baby mama" culture and grand stand about their "family values" and morals. Well it's that same relaxed attitude about sex that aados have, along with our non "traditional" family structure and practices, on top of being an economically and socially marginalized minority that gave birth to these concepts as a way for aados men to still cope and thrive even(to the point of making money off it) when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex. Socially conservative cultures like white americans, and cultures with arranged marriages like Arabs and various Asian & African ones wouldn't produce something like that.

You can even see the difference on this forum on the topic of spending money on women. AADOS men are generally anti-trickin while the African posters here believe strongly in a man is suppose to financially provide for women and wine and dine them, cuz of their CULTURE.

European, Latinos, Africans, Arabs, West Indians DO NOT have or experience that. Y'all real quick to call us ghetto, degenerate, and uncouth to distinguish yourselves, but then turn around and want to say how "similar" we are when y'all want to clalim the "cool"(no pun lol) parts of our culture. No sir, we ain't nothing like the rest of y'all and our experiences and culture are totally different and unique to us.
 
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Dude, these are concepts that arose from from a uniquely AADOS male experience. Point blank period. Not simply from a "low socio economic standing" . shyt indians in india expereince that, but they ain't got shyt close to a mack, playa, or pimp culture.

Because like I said before these concepts unlike other cultures have a sensual, soulful(where the smooth element comes from), and passive aggressive element to them, cuz they were born out a out of the black american courting/seduction practices and underground sex industry, with strong influences from the black church, prison, and street culture to an extent.

How many other ppl experience being a marginalized formely enslaved MINORITY population under a WS society?

And shyt you could got back even further and argue that the soulful influence had its roots in the banishment of hand drums and large gathering of slaves except for church during slavery which ONLY happened in the US, which let to a music tradition that placed much more emphasis on solo performances, vocals and melodies when compared other parts of the new world where heavy rhythms and large ensembles were preferred.

shyt the term "rap" at first had nothing to do with music per say, but spittin game and slick talkin, usually while rhyming in our culture.

I find it funny, cuz when whites, hispanics, africans, WIs and other want to ridicule AADOS one of the first thing they talk about is our "broken" family structure and "baby mama" culture and grand stand about their "family values" and morals. Well it's that same relaxed attitude about sex that aados have, along with our non "traditional" family structure and practices, on top of being an economically and socially marginalized minority that gave birth to these concepts as a way for aados men to still cope and thrive even(to the point of making money off it) when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex. Socially conservative cultures like white americans, and cultures with arranged marriages like Arabs and various Asian & African ones wouldn't produce something like that.

You can even see the difference on this forum on the topic of spending money on women. AADOS men are generally anti-trickin while the African posters here believe strongly in a man is suppose to financially provide for women and wine and dine them, cuz of their CULTURE.

European, Latinos, Africans, Arabs, West Indians DO NOT have or experience that. Y'all real quick to call us ghetto, degenerate, and uncouth to distinguish yourselves, but then turn around and want to say how "similar" we are when y'all want to clalim the "cool"(no pun lol) parts of our culture. No sir, we ain't nothing like the rest of y'all and our experiences and culture are totally different and unique to us.
I never said that Africans and those in the diaspora are the same, I just said that those elements exist in various parts of the world, Africa included, and are a product of people reacting to their socio-economic conditions, especially during/post colonialism with the rise of repressive gvts/ rural-urban migration/urban decay which automatically led to the destruction of core African values that you mentioned.These elements developed independent of anything else and associate with what they find familiar in hip hop/dancehall/reggae because such music was viewed as better than what we were producing from a technical level during that period.

Just as the Italian-Americans, who were not musically innovative as people of African descent, were able to show elements of their "swag"/style etc through film which was linked to a sub-culture(gangsters/the mob) within the whole Italian-American community which was reacting to its socio-economic conditions, and largely, they are the most prominent in that culture in the media. Likewise,"rudeboy/badman/gyallis/rebel" sub-culture gives Jamaican music its style/swag, (pimping/player/gangster/) sub-culture gives Afro-American music its style and like you pointed out, is linked with illegal activities just as the two before it, it shows that its a socio-economic thing, just like gangs/drug abuse etc.These sub-cultures sadly are the ones that make for good content in films and songs and shape how the youth think of themselves/their ethnicity and births copy cats within that very same culture.

On soulful/spiritual music, Africa has always had traditional spiritual sounding music, some even played just on traditional instruments up to date, its just that the message itself is whatever, but once confronted with these new realities, change is happening.To generalize, tricking seems to be a Nigerian thing, where I'm from we prefer trickery.Its even known throughout Africa which nation uses money to get women(stereotype), so its not an African thing.
 
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