Which nba star from the 90s or early 2000s do you think would be average in today's game?

[Sex Luthor]

I always see people saying MJ would drop 50 a game or t mac would dominate if they played now. Well which player that was a star in their time but would be average in this era?

He's not a SUPER star but I think mutumbo would be 2019 Dwight Howard status. Not too much paint scoring in this era. I also think Gary Payton would be average bc the pg now shoots from damn near half court. He wouldn't have time to play defense. His shot wasn't that wet either

I didn't see this question anywhere. If it's been done, my bad fam.

 

[twan83]

Think Rodman would average more flagrants and technicals than ppg

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Clyde Drexler wouldn't be "average" but he would't be a superstar in this era. His jump shot was too broken and he could only go right on the dribble and looked at the ball. Plus his basketball IQ was never very high (MJ and Phil famously mocked him for it) and he used to eat a ton off the fast break which ain't that big now. Back in that day his size/athleticism was unusual for a guard, but now there are a lot more guys in his range and defenses would just shade him right and then what? Exactly what would Drexler do in this era that, say, Wiggins can't do?

Tom Chambers would be just another guy now that every big man has range out to at least 18 feet.

What would Vin Baker be now?

I don't think Mark Price would be able to get his shot off nearly as easily and he would be food on defense. He's too short and too slow - if today's defensive pgs got in his grill then what? Look at how Jimmer struggled to stay in the league and remember that Price was even smaller than him. He would still have a place in the NBA because his ballhandling and passing was much better, but he wouldn't be making no all-star teams and might not even start depending.

Imagine Gordon Hayward if he was 5 inches shorter. And you have Jeff Hornacek.

Rodman would be a bigger liability on offense because back then you had to have a man guarding him, now you could just ignore him completely. Look at the treatment Draymond got when his shot fell off - Rodman would get even less respect than that. On defense he wouldn't be quite as valuable because off-ball defense inside is a lot more important than on-ball defense, and a lot of those big men are dropping back and shooting over guys too. Not that he wouldn't still be an elite defender, it just wouldn't have the same value now that it did then.

 

[Sex Luthor]

Clyde Drexler wouldn't be "average" but he would't be a superstar in this era. His jump shot was too broken and he could only go right on the dribble and looked at the ball. Plus his basketball IQ was never very high (MJ and Phil famously mocked him for it) and he used to eat a ton off the fast break which ain't that big now. Back in that day his size/athleticism was unusual for a guard, but now there are a lot more guys in his range and defenses would just shade him right and then what? Exactly what would Drexler do in this era that, say, Wiggins can't do?

Tom Chambers would be just another guy now that every big man has range out to at least 18 feet.

What would Vin Baker be now?

I don't think Mark Price would be able to get his shot off nearly as easily and he would be food on defense. He's too short and too slow - if today's defensive pgs got in his grill then what?

Imagine Gordon Hayward if he was 5 inches shorter. And you have Jeff Hornacek.

Rodman would be a bigger liability on offense because back then you had to have a man guarding him, now you could just ignore him completely. Look at the treatment Draymond got when his shot fell off - Rodman would get even less respect than that. On defense he wouldn't be quite as valuable because off-ball defense inside is a lot more important than on-ball defense, and a lot of those big men are dropping back and shooting over guys too. Not that he wouldn't still be an elite defender, it just wouldn't have the same value now that it did then.

Most of the players I thought about are bigs bc they never really had to step out and guard anybody.

I never thought about Clyde. You're absolutely right about that. Rodman too. He'd have 40 rebounds a game for the ones he didn't get tossed out of

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Most of the players I thought about are bigs bc they never really had to step out and guard anybody.

I never thought about Clyde. You're absolutely right about that. Rodman too. He'd have 40 rebounds a game for the ones he didn't get tossed out of

Nah, he'd have to box out for some guard who wanted a triple-double.

 

[Cladyclad]

Stockton

 

[staticshock]

Larry Bird

 

[DrexlersFade]

Summertime in the Coliseum

 

[Jparker]

Shawn Kemp

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Paul George never had a season where he averaged over 25ppg until last season where he averaged 28 taking 10 3PA per game.

Guys like Pierce, Carter etc would have ridiculous scoring averages and overall numbers in today’s game due to the number of 3s and ball handling the non PGs do.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Stockton

Stockton made 11 All-NBA teams from 1988 to 1999.

Now imagine him trying to compete against Curry, Dame, Kyrie, Harden, Westbrook, and CP3 for those spots. Even the next tier of Wall, Lowry, Klay, DeRozen, Kemba, Oladipo...anyone putting a John Stockton averaging something like 12 and 10 over them?

He'd be grinding as the starting point guard for some team but no way he'd be seen as a top-10 guard in this age.

 

[PL368Z]

Saying that past starts would be greater in todays league is such a nostalgia merchant take.

 

[Cladyclad]

Joe dumars would not be a 6 time all star

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Paul George never had a season where he averaged over 25ppg until last season where he averaged 28 taking 10 3PA per game.

Guys like Pierce, Carter etc would have ridiculous scoring averages and overall numbers in today’s game due to the number of 3s and ball handling the non PGs do.

That’s not what the OPS question is asking

 

[TaxCollector13459]

Stockton made 11 All-NBA teams from 1988 to 1999.

Now imagine him trying to compete against Curry, Dame, Kyrie, Harden, Westbrook, and CP3 for those spots. Even the next tier of Wall, Lowry, Klay, DeRozen, Kemba, Oladipo...anyone putting a John Stockton averaging something like 12 and 10 over them?

He'd be grinding as the starting point guard for some team but no way he'd be seen as a top-10 guard in this age.

maybe, maybe not..