Which of these options caused the greatest lost in quality for hip hop music

[David_TheMan]

Bingo . And cats from the south realizing they didn’t need nyc to blow anymore. The west, Midwest, and south always fukked with each other due to a lot of NYC elitism

But then the thirst for quantity and hits over quality really began and you had the split with mainstream and underground around that time too

Money and lack of skill started to become more paramount as radio hits didn’t care about that

I'm off the opinion skill never and should never have mattered.
I feel the same way about rock music, they push skill over effect and usually they kick blacks out doing that
And the hyper fixation on "technical" skill is what took jazz from a brand of musics blacks loved to a dead genre only old whites and blacks dependent on them play.

If the music emotionally connects and is catchy thats all I need thats a hit, it helps to have a meaning but I never felt that is necessary.
Thriller doesn't mean anything, but doesn't stop it from being a great song, you know.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Besides what's already been said, sampling lawsuits and samples becoming too expensive. Most of my fav producers haven't been the same since.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I'm off the opinion skill never and should never have mattered.
I feel the same way about rock music, they push skill over effect and usually they kick blacks out doing that
And the hyper fixation on "technical" skill is what took jazz from a brand of musics blacks loved to a dead genre only old whites and blacks dependent on them play.

If the music emotionally connects and is catchy thats all I need thats a hit, it helps to have a meaning but I never felt that is necessary.
Thriller doesn't mean anything, but doesn't stop it from being a great song, you know.

It’s not even technical skill like that. It’s straight up trash cats trying to rhyme not giving two fukks about quality

And we always respected quality over trash.

 

[David_TheMan]

It’s not even technical skill like that. It’s straight up trash cats trying to rhyme not giving two fukks about quality

And we always respected quality over trash.

yeah I think effort at trying is required, but kids 15 years ago up today, they like folks just chanting and doing stream of concious shyt.
I mean I guess our gen might have to take partial blame for making Lil B something

 

[Art Barr]

in your opinion

Put puff on the voting breh.
To make your thread cypha complete.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Puffy should be an option

This.


That is the correct answer.


Art Barr

 

[987654321]

How the fukk are we still using the wrong “loss/lost” in 2025?!

 

[swerve]

The fans killed hiphop. Letting garbage with no talent dominate because of ‘swag’ or ‘hustling’

 

[Premeditated]

Puffy should be an option

absolutely not

 

[the cac mamba]

Eminem in the culture.... in my opinion.

as awful as eminem's music is, whose sound did he really tank?

like to blame new york's downfall on eminem would be embarrassing

 

[Cladyclad]

The south im talking 2005 and beyond

 

[Boywouldyou!]

50 cent