Which producer does the soul sample the best

[head shots101]

9th and Dillmatic both got busy with that sample they did the same with 'Dollars Circulate' although 9ths version was much better


This is my fav kanye joint

That and the intro to Be

I think premo did that

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I think premo did that

Common passed on this beat i made it into my jam bc everything im not made me everything i am

thats 'ye brehshalowitz

 

[Kitsch]

9th Wonder's drums are the worst.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Just so ya'll know, this is Khrysis not 9th



Unless you're thinking of a different beat.

someone who wasn't mentioned in the thread but who i've been listening to a lot is Alchemist. and i'm talking about "this era" alchemist. it seems like dude really figured out his style. the sample chops he chooses and the way he mixes it with the drums and random sounds. it's almost like a mix between soul, progressive rock, old school sci-fi sounding shyt and break beats but i love the way he blends it all.

Yeah man this era ALC (and I consider "this era" to be 2011/Covert Coup and beyond) I call a lot of his beats like collages. They have multiple samples, random sounds, change ups, intros, outros, just all types of craziness. It's not like you can listen to 30 seconds of a beat and hear the whole thing.

I mean I don't know if you heard the new EP with Fashawn but the first song is like that classic bass heavy sinister classic ALC like Po For President, then you have the more blunted out collage shyt on Amen. The trippy loops on dreams, the breakbeats on Professor F, the no drums on Plantation, and then just random fukkery on Never Waiting in Vein.

I can't lie and say I don't prefer when he goes in on more of the chopping and sequencing with harder drums, but I definitely appreciate that he's treating albums "like one long song". He said that and I thought it was interesting. My favorite ALC soul shyt is still his real loud, knocking soul, heavy chops and drums. Joints like Represent Me, Stop Frontin', Stuck To You, The Red Carpet, The Dough...

Common passed on this beat i made it into my jam bc everything im not made me everything i am

thats 'ye brehshalowitz

Common passed on this too

I think premo did that

Kanye did the beat, Preem did the scratch hook. Same deal as The Game on Finding Forever. I guess Common didn't pass on that one.

 

[Turbulent]

Just so ya'll know, this is Khrysis not 9th



Unless you're thinking of a different beat.



Yeah man this era ALC (and I consider "this era" to be 2011/Covert Coup and beyond) I call a lot of his beats like collages. They have multiple samples, random sounds, change ups, intros, outros, just all types of craziness. It's not like you can listen to 30 seconds of a beat and hear the whole thing.

I mean I don't know if you heard the new EP with Fashawn but the first song is like that classic bass heavy sinister classic ALC like Po For President, then you have the more blunted out collage shyt on Amen. The trippy loops on dreams, the breakbeats on Professor F, the no drums on Plantation, and then just random fukkery on Never Waiting in Vein.

I can't lie and say I don't prefer when he goes in on more of the chopping and sequencing with harder drums, but I definitely appreciate that he's treating albums "like one long song". He said that and I thought it was interesting. My favorite ALC soul shyt is still his real loud, knocking soul, heavy chops and drums. Joints like Represent Me, Stop Frontin', Stuck To You, The Red Carpet, The Dough...



Common passed on this too





Kanye did the beat, Preem did the scratch hook. Same deal as The Game on Finding Forever. I guess Common didn't pass on that one.

i heard that Fashawn project last week and liked some of the stuff on it. and yeah, that's exactly wheat i meant when i said the new alchemist era with the covert coup onwards. the Action Bronson, Albert Einstein style. The word collage you used, that's exactly what it is. i'm just really feeling it lately.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

This is one of my favorite beats

The sample for this is crazy. I don't know what it is, and I don't think anyone does, but 9th Wonder was so confident that it would never be discovered that Atlantic never even bothered trying to clear it. He may have even just told them it wasn't even a sample. I dunno. Something like that. If you look in the liner notes it's the one beat on that album that has no sample credit, and I definitely remember him saying that he would be stunned if anyone ever figured it out.

Madlib easily

Listen to Beat Konducta 5-6. Best soul flippage yet

Kanye has the classics from the early 00's that we remember most and gets respect all day for that, but he never had the sophistication and dedication to beatmaking that Madlib and Alchemist have...granted Kanye does several other things

Bink! deserves a nod. Even if he gets a bit overrated on here, he killed all of his beats pretty much. He never did a full project or more than a few tracks a year, but the level of production value in his shyt is crazy. He's able to maintain the dustiness and grittiness of the sample, add in live drums, and still maintain a hi-fi mix

Great posting. Yeah in terms of just "beat making" Kanye is way behind Madlib, ALC, Just, Dilla, Bink, Nottz, etc. Like you said, he started wanting to be more of a Quincy Jones type producer and less of a "beatmaker" and I can appreciate that as well. Kanye did do the occasinal beat with little to no sampling back in the day and I thought they turned out okay. Lucifer had the obvious vocal sample but the melody of the beat was keys and bass lines as far as I know. Get Em High was all keys, drums programming, and bass.

As far as Bink, yeah. I'd even say Bink sort of got Just Blaze into the lane that he'd eventually master. I know Bink has said Just stole his sound and I wouldn't go that far, but You Me Him Her and 1-900 Hustler sound like more "classic" Just Blaze beats, but if you check Just's work on Dynasty, most of it sounds a little different than the epic/large sounding beats that he became known for.

 

[BronxFleeZ]

Kanye loop the hell out of samples though...

true me too but they sound good as hell

 

[KwamePiesie]

cotdamn bredren.. #youngbucks pickin Yeezy over Dil
yall just must not know about Dilla or yall dont make beats yaselfs..
because Dil is GAWD

no producer i repeat no producer has flipped a track like this:


in to this:


fukk what YOU heard

 

[daze23]

Madlib

mostly because he maintains that 'warm' sound. his shyt sound like it's playing off a 45

^^^^that above Dilla joint is like that too

 

[curz]

I feel like Quik deserves a shout

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Dilla
Pete Rock
9th
Kanye
Rza

 

[dreskii]

DILLA.

your favourite producers, favourite producer.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

DILLA.

your favourite producers, favourite producer.

Chris Rock was sort of fronting on Dilla on Juan Epstein the other week and ?uest broke it down to him pretty well

 

[dreskii]

Chris Rock was sort of fronting on Dilla on Juan Epstein the other week and ?uest broke it down to him pretty well

where can i listen to this?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

where can i listen to this?

They start talking favorite producers at 23 mins flat. Ciph also does a hilarious impression of how Preem's scratches have changed over the years.Rock's argument seems to be that Dilla doesn't really have any hits.