Well put.
I would take the high road honestly. I can't stand overly flamboyant gays.
tbh, neither can a lot of gay guys. but they are more often than not, some of the most candid and hardworking people you will ever come across. and that is no lie.
Which road would you take?
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tbh, neither can a lot of gay guys. but they are more often than not, some of the most candid and hardworking people you will ever come across. and that is no lie.
I'd go the high road, the overly flamboyant just seems so fake and forced.
it's funny that people say that and you may disagree, but i promise this: some people are actually like that.
i'm not saying that it isn't annoying or over the top but i can tell you that some folks are like that.
fyi
just to put straight folks on game the word you're looking for is "camp" or "campy"
I feel that any group has stigmas and perceptions lined up against them should work hard to build a financial front. I live next to 3 gay dudes, they 1) aren't over the top flamboyant . 2) are good w business and life and general. I feel that black people need to do the same.... separate to form collective financial and intellectual power ... then participate with the rest of society after that.
You can't force someone to accept u. In the case of gays tho... if u don't tell anyone u are gay and don't inappropriately speak about ur sexual adventures.. u can blend in well... and be successful.
As far as institutions.... Seeking lifestyle validation should never go before seeking you RIGHTS!. Just like with gay marriage.... I can understand y gays wannna force people's hands in that, But what about civil unions? Why not just fight (a wayyyyy easier fight ) in that and get ur rights??? with civil unions u can earn the same right as any couple in love. You don't need a marriage certificate to perform a wedding ceremony.
And since gay's love to piggy back off the civil rights movements and hard work of blacks --- WHY not ALSO learn the lessons from that? Just look at the current state of the collective black community, SMH. U all didn't learn by now that seeking validation, acceptance, and FAKE civil rights legislation is not the way to go??? Go after that tangible shyt, gay friends, lol....... don't fall for the acceptance traps and end up worse than when u started.
Elle Driver
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I'd chill, it's some crazy people out there that will kill you for that.
that was a fukking awesome post. the only thing i can rally say is, as a self-identified queer black man, it needs to be made clear once and for all that the civil rights movement is NOT over and was NOT just about black people. it was about addressing the hypocrisy of the founding documents of this country and calling the powers that be out into the middle of the proverbial street and making them swallow their teeth. and when they are choking and bloody, picking them up, healing them, and saying "i done been told you so, brother...". the civil rights movement is worldwide and it includes every man, woman, and child on this earth. we're fukked as a nation and a people if anyone of us believes that it is less than that.
in the words of my favorite james baldwin character (rufus from another country):
"THIS IS GOT TO STOP".
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your stance on marriage is right on point tho. we're only doing in for the sake of capitalism. the fact that some gays are so hung up on the word blows my mind. but perhaps they are just as religious as you, and so they want that.
Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
What a man does with a woman is his business. Thats why you're supposed to get a wife, to keep you out of the streets engaging in dead end relationships that only add to the pool of deviants. Sex and lust are distracting and there are more important things to do so we find wives to help us focus on more important matters.i understand your cereal analogy and it raises a honest question; regardless of who one loves, is love merely indulgence?*spottie 3stack voice* marinate on that...
the latter part of your post is interesting and i think you are very forward thinking with that. again...i'm inferring your belief: but a man is meant for a woman, correct? if a man wants to be sodomized, he should seek a woman that fulfills that need.//but even if he finds a woman he truly loves that fulfills his "gay" wishes, is it still an abomination in the eyes of the lord?
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i respect your stance but isn't that more of a reason to stand up? if that's the type of person you are, i mean.
can you answer this tastefully, please? if a man commits a deviant act of sodomy with his wife, is that in any way better than doing it with another man according to your god?
edit: i'm just trying to advance the conversation, not trying to call out anyone's personal faith because faith is PERSONAL, imo.
Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
I dont see anything in scripture against Sodomy with a woman. The word sodomy isnt even in the bible. The closest is the word of Sodom which was where a lot of gays were, sodomizing each other. Laying with men is what makes you a homosexual, not what you do with your wife behind closed doors, friend. Im open to Scripture that disagrees with that statement.
not to turn this into a non-serious conversation or troll thread but
. so is this a christian POV or just your interpretation of the bible?
I think that the world would be an amazing place if there were militant homosexuals. i don't mean some "ol' boys" club, i mean a group of not black, but pink panthers that were actually realistic about the state of our civil rights and worked in the moment and not for a dream.
Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
Im not in the head of every Christian. Its not one of those subjects i never really needed some closure on with my pastor for obvious reasons friendnot to turn this into a non-serious conversation or troll thread but
I know scripture very well and the act of laying with men is what God is against not a particular sex act performed with the opposite sex, unless of course its sleeping with a woman during her cycle.
Thats something God doesnt feel.
Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
See Greece, friend. It ended up being a failure and a travesty for humanity as it concerns human relations.
Im not in the head of every Christian. Its not one of those subjects i really needed some closure on with my pastor for obvious reasons friend
I know scripture very well and the act of laying with men is what God is against not a particular sex act performed with the opposite sex, unless of course its sleeping with a woman during her cycle.
that is a very good stance and what i conclude to be the best, being raised a christian myself. does is frustrate you that people do things with an agenda involving jesus. again, not to make the two analogous, but similar to the way people manipulate gay (or general civil rights) to further themselves? what do you think about that type of deception for personal gain?