White House sanctions Russia over hacks

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Sustained low oil is destabilizing. It hurts Russia. It hurts Saudi Arabia. It hurts the rest of OPEC countries, some to the point of catastrophe like Venezuela. It hurts US oil drillers, which has a domino effect. Countless people out of work. Investors fukked. Bank balance sheets imploding.

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You know, there was a time where piano manufacturing used to employee thousand times more people it does today. That was until the invention of the Phonograph which led to the decline of every house having a piano to entertain with music and you could play music on records. Now piano manufacturing is a niche market.

This idea that an industry needs to always employee people or be the buttress of economies, just because, is non-sense. Oklahoma and to a lesser degree, Texas, are currently suffering due to lower gas prices. Low gas prices are great for the consumer and the question needs to be asked, why do we need to make the consumer suffer because these economies failed to diversify? They better pick up them bootstraps. The funny thing is that Oil companies aren't hurting because they are investing in alternative fuels and shale oil to pick up the decrease in prices.

If they maybe invested in drawing in other businesses besides oil companies, they would be able to lessen the economic pain. Not the rest of the country problem here as it relates to Texas and Olkahoma. California and New York doesn't have that problem.
 

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There's a similarity btwn this and Iraq wmds, I guess. But at least with Iraq it went to Congress and forced the administration to lie to the world.

In this case no one is disputing whether or not hacking accorded. This isnt the first time a country has accused Russia of hacking their government. Russia is also harboring someone the US has charged with espionage, who also likes to leak US secrets.

Why shouldn't this be investigated?

:usure:...alot of people are disputing Russian hacking anything.

I'm not saying states and non-state actors don't try to hack. But where is the evidence, or are you just echoing what you've heard in the MSM echo chamber?

I can say cows have 5 legs and chickens can speak Portuguese. I can have CNN and Fox News have their reporters repeat it so that it is now bouncing through the New York Times, Yahoo News, and the Huffington Post.

However, if John Q. Public believes it, but has no evidence shown to verify this statement. It might as well be a children's fable.
 

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You know, there was a time where piano manufacturing used to employee thousand times more people it does today. That was until the invention of the Phonograph which led to the decline of every house having a piano to entertain with music and you could play music on records. Now piano manufacturing is a niche market.

This idea that an industry needs to always employee people or be the buttress of economies, just because, is non-sense. Oklahoma and to a lesser degree, Texas, are currently suffering due to lower gas prices. Low gas prices are great for the consumer and the question needs to be asked, why do we need to make the consumer suffer because these economies failed to diversify? They better pick up them bootstraps. The funny thing is that Oil companies aren't hurting because they are investing in alternative fuels and shale oil to pick up the decrease in prices.

If they maybe invested in drawing in other businesses besides oil companies, they would be able to lessen the economic pain. Not the rest of the country problem here as it relates to Texas and Olkahoma. California and New York doesn't have that problem.
We gonna hate Apple and Samsung for ruining Kodak? No. Exactly.
 

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I strongly disagree. A country which has been ruled by the former head of the Soviet KGB for the last 15 plus years. A country which murders civilians without batting an eye. A country which encroaches on sovereign nations for land grabs, and the list goes on. If there is one inherently evil country, it's Russia. The world as a whole will never be safe as long as Russia continues the f*** shyt


USA Russia relationship went south after Russia made that gay propaganda law. Obama and the dems went ape shyt after Putin went after gays. We have been in this bullshyt cold war ever since.
 

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USA Russia relationship went south after Russia made that gay propaganda law. Obama and the dems went ape shyt after Putin went after gays. We have been in this bullshyt cold war ever since.
Really went bad after the US tried to stage the coup in Ukraine and caused a civil war and Russia finally checked them.
 

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fox news has quite the conundrum on this one :dead:

do they applaud obama....or side with russia? :sas1:


This move doesnt make much sense brehs I am sorry.. If Russia hacked Trump and interfered in the elections for Hilltron then Obama does nothing..Plus we have seen zero evidence, wikileaks been saying it was a disgruntled dem operative. this shyt looks partisan and petty as fukk I am sorry

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This move doesnt make much sense brehs I am sorry.. If Russia hacked Trump and interfered in the elections for Hilltron then Obama does nothing..Plus we have seen zero evidence, wikileaks been saying it was a disgruntled dem operative. this shyt looks partisan and petty as fukk I am sorry

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the definition of 'interfered' was garbage from day one

interfered, to me, means messing with voting machines. not making information available to the american voters, who, lets face it, 99 PERCENT already had their minds made up

shyt was embarassing :mjlol:
 

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USA Russia relationship went south after Russia made that gay propaganda law. Obama and the dems went ape shyt after Putin went after gays. We have been in this bullshyt cold war ever since.
I think destabilizing the Ukraine and annexing Crimea was more important issues in the administration mind instead of less important social issues.
 

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With regards to the validity of the hacking accusations, we have to recall the nexus of their story that it was indeed the Russians.

I recall the original logic being, the DNC says a Russian hack was conducted because the RNC had also been hacked but no evidence was released against them. However, since the representatives from the RNC were not willing to go along with that lie, they instead have ignored that piece and modified the story - The RNC was NOT hacked, and since only the DNC was hacked it must be the Russians because the Russians only hate Democrats.

It's unbelievably stupid.

On top of that there's more evidence to suggest that it cannot be a hack because there would be digital records of someone trying to access the e-mail accounts from an unknown or unauthorized IP addresses. I too conclude that it must be a leak because they STILL do not know who did it, which suggest that it must be someone who has explicit access and would not be suspected in any way whatsoever.

Furthermore, the publisher of said information, Assange, steadfastly maintains that the source is not Russian.

The saddest thing is that they cannot deny the content of the e-mails but instead tell us we shouldn't be outraged at the blatant corruption and evil that is Hillary and her cohorts, but the covert means that they were obtained. They tried to say that the corruption was 'typical' but the simple fact of the matter is that us regular normal people do believe in right and wrong, and we don't like to pretend.

The accusation is a blatant lie and its simply the Clinton machine trying to achieve their goals despite them not gaining the presidency.

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I should also add that these same intelligence agencies refused to brief Congress on their findings but were willing to brief the electors just before the electoral college vote. Seems like they've now scrounged together some more papers and will be ready to give Trump his briefing next week.
 
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Start? :pachaha:

Muthafukkas just altered the course of our country's history forever with the election results and Obama is starting things??? :mjlol:

Hillary never had a chance of beating Trump with or without those hacked emails. She lost because she ran a terrible campaign.
 
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