White Nursing instructor tells white students not to share test notes with blacks

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[Field Marshall Bradley]

In response to my post questioning what interest a nursing program would have in seeing their students fail.....since schools are ranked by % of students who pass licensing exams.


25YOUTHS!! said: ↵
If you don't pass the school exams, you don't get to sit for the standard licensing exams...This is how schools artificially inflate their % pass rate b/c it only counts the students who they LET take the exams in the first place. A school can have a 98% pass rate on the licensing exams but also have a 50% attrition rate

My response was
Which is fine, but it doesn't address my response to the poster who wrote that "nursing schools love to see Black students fail".This is a community college, with an open admission policy, so they can't raise admissions criteria to produce a better pool of students. They accept the people who apply. Again, I don't see how any of their students failing benefits the school. Even if it's an associates degree mill, and just taking students for the fed. student aid money, at some point the word would get out and perhaps lower the number of students in that concentration

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That line you quoted was me pointing out the obvious difference between the admissions policy of a CC versus a school with higher admissions standards. Theoretically, the attrition he mentions would be lower in the nursing program for people with stronger academic records.

Ahh.. Got it

 

[TEH]

That's fukked up

ICDC College >>>>>

 

[HonoredOne]

Rep'd. Link to the interview?

 

[get these nets]

Rep'd. Link to the interview?

Thanks..

from his appearance on the WTF podcast with Marc Maron...should be up on youtube

 

[HonoredOne]

Thanks..

from his appearance on the WTF podcast with Marc Maron...should be up on youtube

Much appreciated breh

 

[25YOUTHS!!]

Oh great,I'm always open to learn but I don't think that you or anybody here believes that I don't know what I'm talking about. Nursing is a big profession among women from my ethnic background..and there are LpNs, RNs,BSNs, and nursing PhDs in our extended family. If any of them have struggled to pass state licensing exams or school finals...it would be news to me.

Instructor should be removed and or prosecuted. If you read the story though, I think you'll agree with my original point that no good student would fail that final because of what the instructor did. All the students were given a study sheet/chart/review . Unless I misunderstood what I read, the instructor highlighted the relevant material for the white students. The article above says she "highlighted the answers", but that doesn't make sense .

Organic Chemistry is a weed out course. Separates strong students, who should pursue medical studies, from the ones who probably should not. I'm aware of curves being used in tough courses..but like I said in my first reply in the thread....I don't think a strong enough curve exists in this comm. college class that any solid student would fail the final.



Which is fine, but it doesn't address my response to the poster who wrote that "nursing schools love to see Black students fail".This is a community college, with an open admission policy, so they can't raise admissions criteria to produce a better pool of students. They accept the people who apply. Again, I don't see how any of their students failing benefits the school. Even if it's an associates degree mill, and just taking students for the fed. student aid money, at some point the word would get out and perhaps lower the number of students in that concentration

Breh, you're making a lot of assumptions and coming to conclusions based on....I'm not sure.
"...women of my ethnic background"...What does that even mean? Based on your replies and way of thinking, Imma assume you're a first gen. African immigrant..shii me too breh.
I also have family members that are nurses at all levels and I'm in the health field myself (tho not nursing). Let me tell you what I know for a FACT: The community college acceptance and getting into the nursing program at that particular CC are two different things. You have to take pre-reqs and THEN apply for the nursing program. The nursing programs at CCs aren't necessarily any easier since they all have to pass the same standard exams at the end, so the curriculum and rigor are on par with other nursing programs, whether at 4 year colleges etc.
Quick example; the CC in my hometown has a nursing program that's affiliated with a top 5 hospital nearby. It's very rigorous and the acceptance rate is way lower than most of the nursing programs in the state, public and private. But it's at a community college. My point is you can't necessarily assess the quality or rigor based on whether or not it's at a CC or 4 year university. This is especially true for nursing b/c a disproportionate amount of programs (both 2 and 4 year) are at CCs.
As for the grading on a curve, it's very common, especially at the higher level classes in your major. Therefore a significant # of students cheating and killing the curve will undoubtedly lower the grade of the non-cheating student, regardless of how smart they are. I don't know what you're trynna argue here.
Everything else you said is based on the assumption that getting accepted into a nursing program at a CC is a given, which is not the case.

Straight from the website for the school the thread is about: Admissions Procedure All students who have been admitted to Louisiana Delta Community College and who have fulfilled the pre-requisites are eligible to apply to admission to the Practical Nursing program. Enrollment in the PN program is limited. Please speak to the faculty representative, PN Coordinator, or Student Affairs at any campus for details.

 

[3rdWorld]

Whites know to stay on 'code', do we? The only code we protect vigorously is the N word.
I used to see this type sort of shyt all the time in college..white girl hasnt done her homework over the weekend and its monday morning. She goes to speak to the Prof quietly and its forgiven and forgotten. Now us on the other hand..

 

[Marti]

I went to a pwi and cacs cheated more than anyone.

Teachers would peep but never said anything

 

[Hugs]

snippet from an old Patrice O'neal interview. he gave a unique perspective about why there was such resistance to busing students in Boston during the 1970s. He says it during the end of the brief clip

strong language

The world needs him and tupac more than ever

 

[Sukairain]

Good on the students to let people know what was going down instead of going along with that bytch's evil scheme

 

[Primetime]

Asian kids got cheating on LOCK...white kids need admin help. If a bunch of white kids passed something, they got inside help for sure. I know in one of my micro classes, this white girl I knew basically got word for words answers from the professor for the upcoming exam, shared them with me so I had them, but when the grading came back, I had random missed points on my answers. Our answers weren't word for word, but we were saying the same stuff. I argued with him about it using her exam cause I knew he wouldn't take points off of hers. Later that week, she doesn't want to study with me anymore and I'm like "why?" "oh, professor said I shouldn't let people copy my work.." ummm what? You literally just got answers from him, you didn't DO any work.

When I saw her in corporate finance, I acted like I never even knew her.

Facts. My university had one of the top business programs in the nation but while i was majoring there as an undergrad, I eventually learned that a big benefit of those business frat/sorority groups (i never joined any frats, but i was naturally cool with folks) was that all they did was circulate copies of the tests amongst each other. Instructors apparently rarely ever updated the lesson content or test questions over the semesters or even years, so these student groups had the hand-me-downs dating from who knows how long.

So how could they pretty much have every mid-term and final-exam for all these courses? And how were they getting access to them? Clearly there was some shyt going on behind the scenes with connects; either professors or teaching assistants or something.

That shyt really opened my eyes to the behind the scenes ish in universities, and that was like a decade ago.

My ass out here struggling trying to juggle college life and passing these exams, and i'm seein muthafukkas who i know stay wasted passing with B+s and As with the look.

I had a white friend who finally explained it to me my senior year and told me that not only do they pass around the test versions with answers marked but they make sure to purposely miss the answers to some of them so that shyt never gets too suspicious. Only thing here was that it wasn't just white or asian, but pretty much anyone who was part of the frat/groups.

So i'm not at all surprised to hear these kinds of stories, esp if it happens along racial lines.

 

[MostReal]

thanks for the article,op.

You're doing too much with your comments though. Instructor is dead wrong, but no good student in that class is going to fail because she gave answer key to white students.
I can't image that the final is graded on such a steep curve that students who pass the test would get a failing grade.

At any rate...instructor should be fired asap...and perhaps be brought up on charges.

Hold this neg

RN school is no joke, nothing in the medical field is

 

[Serious]

I thought I pulled back on what I could have said. Do you understand that white people keep "affirmative action" on the tip of their tongues when you start talking about blacks in higher learning? They always bring up how blacks are taking spots that should be whites and Asians, but here they are cheating. And not just cheating, but they made sure to withhold information specifically from blacks in this case. Black people the only ones in America expected to play fair. Do we even need to talk about those Asian cheating scandals? And then people turn right around talkin about blacks lagging behind and not focusing on school.

Man Asians are the king of cheating in college man......

 

[Uncle Hotep]

Are the white student c00ns for sharing the notes?

If this was a reverse situation what would y'all do?

Black Teacher tells black students "Dont share these notes."

Would yall be ?

Or be ?