Who are rappers you think get credit for their rapping ability, you don't think are nice

[MeachTheMonster]

Kendrick at that great lyrically either, but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation

 

[Asicz]

Some coli brehs like Estee Nack and I don't get it really

 

[Edub]

the irony of this thread, mfs basically naming EVERYONE

But i'll agree that Juelz Santana and Joey Bada$$.

But the disrespect on HOV and Styles P. Yall mfs really just naming anyone

I'm glad people are seeing right through Kendrick though. He ain't a lyricist compared to the greats, but he does have the concepts down pat. It's just that people OVER HYPE the f*ck of his lyrical ability. He's good, not NICE AF like a Nas or AZ.

Fab actually should get more praised for being as witty as hov

That’s ridiculous

 

[TripleAgent]

He may have had dabbled in other types of songs. The execution is the issue.

When I brought up the point about making rappers afraid, I know that's one if the things Canibus gets praised for. I was making mention of Pun, an MC from the same era did that and more.

Canibus had all this hype as an "elite talent", but couldn't deliver an album made the case for him being an elite talent. Can't be elite and then not be a good song writer and ok in other areas. He was elite when he was a featured artist. When the spotlight was solely on him, it revealed his weaknesses.

He did everything well except crafting hits. The tread is about RAPPING ABILITY. Canibus is one of the definitions of RAPPING ABILITY.

We do not know if jay was ever nice because he is a biter and uses a ghostwriter.

Plus you not nice at all if you never freestyle frfr no where as well.


All these rappers y'all talk about not on shyt frfr as far as skill.
As they all trash off the top.
Plus their technical skills and rubrick is outdated and bitten too.





Art Barr

Need you to expound on this.

1. Method Man.
2. Plies.
3. Jay Elec (and I like Jay)
4. David Banner
5. Any cac.

Method Man has rapping ability in spades.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Earl sweatshirt

 

[Insensitive]

Dudes mentioning FAB after Kendrick Lamar is comical.
Fab and Kendrick Lamar made two different records damn near on the same beat.

One is a fukking classic in "Alright" the other is whatever the fukk Fab dropped.

Dudes don't understand "Songwriting" and "Rapping" as one in the same and try to
isolate "Bars" from the SONG and what serves the SONG.

"Lyrical" half of y'all wouldn't know lyrical if it personally walked into your crib and slapped
the dog shyt out of you.

If you don't make good songs, you aren't a good musician to me.
If you can't be LYRICAL and make GOOD SONGS, you're not a GOOD RAPPER.
Jay-Z and Nas and Biggie and Pac and Common and Talib and whoever the fukk else got dissed in this thread
by you blasphemous b*stards have already been solidified because they were both LYRICAL and made GOOD SONGS.

 

[DEAD7]

1. Method Man.
2. Plies.
3. Jay Elec (and I like Jay)
4. David Banner
5. Any cac.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Perfectly said. Posters hear folks say Rev Run is one of their favorite rappers then get belligerent on some "That nikka can't spit no fukn 16! Overrated." No one said he can, he just has a quality about him that people like.

The bolded is how I measure lyricism. The technical stuff is cool every now and again but give me a verse that I can feel ()

I think we (I’m guessing your age) came up in an era where you had to be stupid nice. Flex getting all these dudes to freestyle now, but you used to need a new hot 16 for EVERY radio show. And fukk 16. You had to have 15-20-40 mins of bars ready to go. Dudes needed mixtape freestyles for every DJ. For rap city. For bet awards. For each dvd. Spit spit spit

Eventually dudes took it to punchline extremes and every bar was “like _________” with a punchline to make you say wooooooooo

As I got older, I found the most basic lines made me feel them more. It’s that emotion that really sells a line. I can see why every name is out here. And if you really tried to argue by typing out a lyric, you’d lose. But dammit if you threw on a certain song, it could bring tears to your eyes

That’s the real lyricism. What can you make the listener feel. What emotions can you pull. Not how many times you can rap 100 similes

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Big L
J. Cole
Kendrick Lamar
Common
Meek Mill
50 Cent
Lloyd Banks
Cam'ron

 

[DEAD7]

Big L
J. Cole
Kendrick Lamar
Common
Meek Mill
50 Cent
Lloyd Banks
Cam'ron

 

[pauljerico]

Masta Killa

No hate. I just don't get it. I've seen brehs on here profess how dope he is and underrated but, personally, I can't listen to him. Outside of 4th Chamber, I have not heard anything with replayability. He could be a dope and insightful lecturer but I can't listen to his music.

Fukk you talking about masta 4th chamber? Tells me that you are ignorant..

Mysteries of chessboxing>>>>>>your entire life

 

[NoHalfWay]

 

[Mike the Executioner]

I’m gonna get flamed () for this, but GURU fits this description perfectly to me. Never saw him as a top tier rapper.

People don't really rate Guru that highly, especially on here. He gets ignored at best and disrespected at worst.

Personally, I think he should be mentioned in that category of elite rappers and that he's grossly underrated, but that's just me.

 

[NoHalfWay]

nikkas in here naming the greatest rappers of all time as not that nice

 

[Boonapalist]

nikkas done named Jay, Canibus, Method Man, Prodigy, and Common . Oh lawd help us all