"Who are the Knicks? Brunson, Brunson and some other Knickas" " - Official '23 NYK Offseason Thread

[Derek Lee]

Reggie Bullock

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Rightfully so

 

[K-ZOE]

I think those mentioning KP and Burks are doing so because they are obtainable pieces that bring needs and would improve this team. I don't think anyone is willing to break the bank, gut the team, or cried when they left the 1st time.
Naysayers are saying "No! We need a backup PG that can shoot, pass, and break down the defense!" Well.....
no shyt naysayers. Who doesn't need that? Now please kindly share the available player that fits that bill. Yeah the 2nd unit is better with a primary ball handler and IQ as the secondary. We saw it with Rose. However...he's cooked. So instead of telling us how it'd work better...drop a name. An obtainable one.

Also Burks/IQ/Hart works better than this years 2nd unit because it still adds a secondary capable ball handler in Burks. IQ had ZERO help getting the ball across. Hart didn't want that shyt. But yeah who's this guy ready to be 2021 D Rose? Reggie Jackson? He's not in Denver rotation. Not a guy I love, I'm just tryna help y'all out. You stating the obvious but no solution in correcting the problem.

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

I think those mentioning KP and Burks are doing so because they are obtainable pieces that bring needs and would improve this team. I don't think anyone is willing to break the bank, gut the team, or cried when they left the 1st time.
Naysayers are saying "No! We need a backup PG that can shoot, pass, and break down the defense!" Well.....
no shyt naysayers. Who doesn't need that? Now please kindly share the available player that fits that bill. Yeah the 2nd unit is better with a primary ball handler and IQ as the secondary. We saw it with Rose. However...he's cooked. So instead of telling us how it'd work better...drop a name. An obtainable one.

Also Burks/IQ/Hart works better than this years 2nd unit because it still adds a secondary capable ball handler in Burks. IQ had ZERO help getting the ball across. Hart didn't want that shyt. But yeah who's this guy ready to be 2021 D Rose? Reggie Jackson? He's not in Denver rotation. Not a guy I love, I'm just tryna help y'all out. You stating the obvious but no solution in correcting the problem.

This exactly. That hypothetical player we want isn't available right now, that doesn't stop us from trying to improve (even marginally) until he does become available though.

 

[storyteller]

I wouldn't hate bringing Burks back. KP feels like a better fit than Randle, but rebounding takes a hit and I haven't watched KP's offball defense closely enough to know how much he'd help with the rotations.

More importantly, I think the Knicks are gonna aim higher than that. I'm expecting a star chase, with more enthusiasm than the Mitchell trade talks had this past offseason. So any moves I'm entertaining, would change depending on what's sent out and what comes in.

If an Embiid miracle happens, KP is off the table. If we move Obi in a star trade, we need a PF. If we deal IQ, suddenly Burks makes more sense than ever. So I'm having trouble thinking about targets for this team because I think the roster will look a lot different...though maybe that's wishful thinking.

Other than that, I'm just looking at this roster and thinking about needs that the MLE can cover. Divincenzo....maybe Beasley on the cheap after LA waives him.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Reggie Bullock

Big Dikk Reggie

 

[ISO]

I wouldn't hate bringing Burks back. KP feels like a better fit than Randle, but rebounding takes a hit and I haven't watched KP's offball defense closely enough to know how much he'd help with the rotations.

More importantly, I think the Knicks are gonna aim higher than that. I'm expecting a star chase, with more enthusiasm than the Mitchell trade talks had this past offseason. So any moves I'm entertaining, would change depending on what's sent out and what comes in.

If an Embiid miracle happens, KP is off the table. If we move Obi in a star trade, we need a PF. If we deal IQ, suddenly Burks makes more sense than ever. So I'm having trouble thinking about targets for this team because I think the roster will look a lot different...though maybe that's wishful thinking.

Other than that, I'm just looking at this roster and thinking about needs that the MLE can cover. Divincenzo....maybe Beasley on the cheap after LA waives him.

It was rumblings he likes New York but doesn’t want to play under Thibs

Embiid a bytch and will never win a championship

 

[ISO]

I think those mentioning KP and Burks are doing so because they are obtainable pieces that bring needs and would improve this team. I don't think anyone is willing to break the bank, gut the team, or cried when they left the 1st time.
Naysayers are saying "No! We need a backup PG that can shoot, pass, and break down the defense!" Well.....
no shyt naysayers. Who doesn't need that? Now please kindly share the available player that fits that bill. Yeah the 2nd unit is better with a primary ball handler and IQ as the secondary. We saw it with Rose. However...he's cooked. So instead of telling us how it'd work better...drop a name. An obtainable one.

Also Burks/IQ/Hart works better than this years 2nd unit because it still adds a secondary capable ball handler in Burks. IQ had ZERO help getting the ball across. Hart didn't want that shyt. But yeah who's this guy ready to be 2021 D Rose? Reggie Jackson? He's not in Denver rotation. Not a guy I love, I'm just tryna help y'all out. You stating the obvious but no solution in correcting the problem.

Reggie Jackson is

I think @Wargames wants Russy on the squad

Sensible post KP and Burks simply improve the team at a value.

 

[storyteller]

It was rumblings he likes New York but doesn’t want to play under Thibs

Embiid a bytch and will never win a championship

I think Embiid's soft. But I also think a lot of number-one options don't have the mental part down. I'm hoping we can count on Brunson to pick that up for 'em. We're gonna have to find a reclamation star or try to steal one from someone hitting the repeater tax threshold. There's some UGLY contracts out there that we could probably snag without much pain, but it's a wrap for flexibility after that.

 

[Peter Popoff]

I want Dame and dump Randle.

 

[Wargames]

U overthinking it.

Most teams don't have those luxuries you're even speaking of.

Where we even finding another D-Rose. D-Rose was our best player period that year.

The Knicks need shooting. Burks has familiarity and was a positive on both ends for us and just a solid ass vet all around. He is instant offense and a 40% 3PT roughly his last 4 seasons in the league not only that he would likely come at a value.

I really just want to respond to this again.

You out here looking up the 3pt shooting percentages of Alec Burks to try and make a point but I’m overthinking it.

This exactly. That hypothetical player we want isn't available right now, that doesn't stop us from trying to improve (even marginally) until he does become available though.

That was the idea of signing Burks last time and they had to trade out a draft to move him. It makes more sense they go for that player now. Playing it safe led to 2021, this team isn't good enough to be comfortable and make small changes.

Don't forget they had to trade 11 to move him last time but hey let's pay him again.

 

[RickyGQ]

I wouldn't hate bringing Burks back. KP feels like a better fit than Randle, but rebounding takes a hit and I haven't watched KP's offball defense closely enough to know how much he'd help with the rotations.

More importantly, I think the Knicks are gonna aim higher than that. I'm expecting a star chase, with more enthusiasm than the Mitchell trade talks had this past offseason. So any moves I'm entertaining, would change depending on what's sent out and what comes in.

If an Embiid miracle happens, KP is off the table. If we move Obi in a star trade, we need a PF. If we deal IQ, suddenly Burks makes more sense than ever. So I'm having trouble thinking about targets for this team because I think the roster will look a lot different...though maybe that's wishful thinking.

Other than that, I'm just looking at this roster and thinking about needs that the MLE can cover. Divincenzo....maybe Beasley on the cheap after LA waives him.

This. If Mitch and RJ can be the framework to get us a close to elite wing, I’d gladly bring back KP. The possibles only seem to be Jaylen Brown and Paul George so far.

 

[ISO]

I really just want to respond to this again.

You out here looking up the 3pt shooting percentages of Alec Burks to try and make a point but I’m overthinking it.



That was the idea of signing Burks last time and they had to trade out a draft to move him. It makes more sense they go for that player now. Playing it safe led to 2021, this team isn't good enough to be comfortable and make small changes.

Don't forget they had to trade 11 to move him last time but hey let's pay him again.

Burks can hoop rock solid 10 year pro don’t know why nikkas is hating but whatever.

 

[Wargames]

I think those mentioning KP and Burks are doing so because they are obtainable pieces that bring needs and would improve this team. I don't think anyone is willing to break the bank, gut the team, or cried when they left the 1st time.
Naysayers are saying "No! We need a backup PG that can shoot, pass, and break down the defense!" Well.....
no shyt naysayers. Who doesn't need that? Now please kindly share the available player that fits that bill. Yeah the 2nd unit is better with a primary ball handler and IQ as the secondary. We saw it with Rose. However...he's cooked. So instead of telling us how it'd work better...drop a name. An obtainable one.

Also Burks/IQ/Hart works better than this years 2nd unit because it still adds a secondary capable ball handler in Burks. IQ had ZERO help getting the ball across. Hart didn't want that shyt. But yeah who's this guy ready to be 2021 D Rose? Reggie Jackson? He's not in Denver rotation. Not a guy I love, I'm just tryna help y'all out. You stating the obvious but no solution in correcting the problem.

We can add around 40 million in salary and send a minimum of 18 back for around 35 and have so many draft picks we can't draft no more, we got to take a swing on something better.

Literally Begley was like the knicks don't care about the draft this year

 

[Wargames]

Burks can hoop rock solid 10 year pro don’t know why nikkas is hating but whatever.

We can do better and I been told ya’ll they replaced him.