u basically repeated what i said without the details of how slowwwwww music moved then compared to now.....again if Pac heard it ..he had no proper time to respond...IF he heard it.
Who Dissed First?? 2Pac Or Mobb Deep?
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u basically repeated what i said without the details of how slowwwwww music moved then compared to now.....again if Pac heard it ..he had no proper time to respond...IF he heard it.
No... you said it wasn't released when he was alive, and it was. It wasn't just some mixtape-only shyt that they held for months to put out after he passed. It was the lead damn single.
But did he hear it? Like I said, no one but he could've answered that. But it ain't like they were hiding the record.
listen Man....when i say it wasn't released when he was alive I mean it wasn't on a retail album for petes sake......
again music moved at an extremely slow pace back then...
i'd bet that pac was at least aware of the diss.
all the east coast dudes in his crew. plus he was up there in new York right before he passed.
besides, iirc, the argument was that some people thought "drop a gem on em" was released after pac died as a chump move.
the difference is that the roots' video was done in a manner in that if anyone responded(aside from biggie, i guess), they would just look guilty.
the de la video str8 up looked like a play on treach & 2pac. not just because of the type of video that they were mocking, but the fact that the mannerisms of the characters in the video screamed treach & 2pac.
yea, i couldn't recall if the roots video was a winter or a spring joint. so basically yall are saying that it was the 2nd single? i always thought it was the 3rd video off that album.
props on the biggie quote.
all the east coast dudes in his crew. plus he was up there in new York right before he passed.
besides, iirc, the argument was that some people thought "drop a gem on em" was released after pac died as a chump move.
the difference is that the roots' video was done in a manner in that if anyone responded(aside from biggie, i guess), they would just look guilty.
the de la video str8 up looked like a play on treach & 2pac. not just because of the type of video that they were mocking, but the fact that the mannerisms of the characters in the video screamed treach & 2pac.
yea, i couldn't recall if the roots video was a winter or a spring joint. so basically yall are saying that it was the 2nd single? i always thought it was the 3rd video off that album.
props on the biggie quote.
Drop a gem on em is the most underrated diss song ever
Pac started the whole beef.
One of a few that's for sure!
infamousred
All Star
i've always wanted to read the letter that puffy sent to him in jail. i looked for it a bunch of times on the internet, but could never find it. supposedly it was puff copping pleas...i think thats what pac was referencing in ambitionz az a ridah. you know, "gettin much mail in jail, niiggas tell me to kill it, knowin when i get out, they gonna feel it"
anyway, i thought the mobb and pac beef was started when havoc was talking to wendy williams and said 2pac got raped in jail. i'm not from ny, so i can't confirm it. someone who's from there would have to tell it.
"bishop got juiced up, now he think he thuggin it black"
i honestly believe the only reason he want at da brat was because she did the b-side w/ biggie. dude was just smoking and drinking too fukkin much. mad paranoid type of shiit...anyway i loved all those diss tracks pac was makin. no one could match his energy in a diss track, period.
its a shame "watch ya mouth" wasn't released when he was still alive. that was honestly the best one...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTUTwjR1tM[/ame]
"de la got a problem w/ this hard shiit? ever since me, myself, and i, y'all been garbage"
I know he had dissed sum nikkas just for the fact they wuz criticizing the direction hiphop wuz goin ie gangsta rap....I think u right,I don't think he felt they dissed him personally.....but certain nikkas wuz dissing the TYPE of music he as well as others made as if it wuznt real hiphop.....I think he considered them and a few others to be sum haters.
Not much different than why Cube threw a shot at Common,Common didn't get specefic but we know what I Used to love Her wuz sayin....wuznt neccesarily just about the west coast gangsta rap but it wuz a shot......Cube decided to get specefic,and Pac decided to get specefic
Hometown shyt talkin wuz had to be at a all time high....I know Pac said he heard Qtip on the radio and i remember a vulgar azz Slick Rick interview shyttin on the west with the host instigatin
Look at it this way,he definitly thought the word "thug" wuz synonomous with him at the time in terms of hiphop....he even thru a slight dig at Bone Thugs in that interview in harlem for havin "thugs" in they name too....which maybe it ain't fair to think that,but I remember just recently nikkas swore that "what's a goon to a goblin" line by Wayne wuz a plies diss when Wayne wuz a known Plies stan.....but the word "goon" at the time wuz Plies thing,since he started usin it its now becom one of the most excessivly used words in hiphop....just like thug and thuggin has been since Pac,but I don't think we wuz there yet back in 96
...and for themto think they could use the word "thug" and "life" back to back and say "we still livin it" when Pac said he don't wanna live it no more had to have Pac
....and in fairness he sent the dudes to the show becuz he wuznt sure if it wuz homage or not bcuz it could be taken either way.Maybe if we had twitter it would have been easier to clear shyt up back then,instead most would throw a subliminal out there to see if dudes really felt sum kind of way or not which lead to a lot of cold wars back then
...thank god subliminals wuznt Pacs strong suit
...now Cube and LL originally I think did get dissed for no reason by Pac,plain fuked up for theCube diss no matter the reason,it wuz a dumb reason to me and moreso Cube blessed Pac on S4MN,gave him the blueprint to get his foot in the door.Most sensitive/quickest to think you talkin about me list all time
1.KRS
2.Yukmouth
3.Pac/50
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them all and give a 
to a few of those beefs they had.
the rhyme king
truth.com
no he did'nt pac was on pro black changing the community type shyt them mobb deep nikkas was on some shoot em up bang bang type shyt.
Yeah, cause this video is clearly a direct shot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsk9c1xoaMU
And who in that video looks like Treach? Unless De La were psychic and knew Treach would cut his braids a year and a half later, I don't see A nikka in the vid that looks like him.
Honestly, I don't even believe this is what Pac had a beef with in '96. Cause it wouldn't make sense to take offense to this in '93, then shout them out on a song in '95, only to get upset about a three-year-old video in '96. I'm pretty sure this is the explanation people have run with as their own reason.
I think Pac's issue with De La was their conflict with Treach over the misinterpreted line in their song from the '96 album (which was later resolved).
And even more so, I just think it was Pac's '95-'96 sensitive nature.
POS said himself that it got started back up when they got into it with treach, somebody got the beats, pac jumped in.
And just because he gave them nikkas props doesn't mean he believed them when they said they weren't spoofing his video, he gave LL props while saying he fell off in the same sentence.
I mean 3 years later they are STILL doing and saying slick shyt about other rappers on the low, every de la fan in here is breaking down what lines are about what rappers, they wanna stick their neck out, fukk em.
TrifeGod
Chasing The Dragon
Fuk the community
thug life we still livin it
thug life we still livin it
I'm sorry but this is justBubble baths my nikka? How many rappers you know that loved bubble baths more than pac?
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