Who Had The Bigger Impact? Cash Money Or No Limit [Update: Poll Added]

[JustCKing]

C'mon man you're pulling at straws. Wayne had been the consensus #1 rap artist up until it was Drake, whose been carring the mantle fo an unprecedented amount of time now. Sure guys like Kendrick and Kanye have had big years but overall it's non debatable.

You're backpedaling. You said biggest artists in music. Now you're saying biggest artists in rap and even by that standard, we have:

2008 and 2011 where Wayne was the biggest artist in rap. For Drake, you have 2012-2016.

 

[OHSNAP!]

Krazy got me wishing Pac could got a Neptunes track

Would've been a reaaaally good fit I feel

 

[letti cook]

Would've been a reaaaally good fit I feel

man he would float over something like this

 

[Doctor Wily]

For you it may be (and we're offtopic here again, since it's about influence), but BBTP's 95-98 work is absolutely phenomenal. They still had something hot left in 99 (Down 4 My Ns, Fiend's Street Life album, Mo B's album), but the decline was obvious, they were burnt out

You just brought back High School memories

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

depends on how you look at it - like as a full label, crew - i'd go no limit. that tank certified and got play for so many artists who otherwise would not have made any sort of impact.

cash money started of strong as a crew from 98/99 (nationally) to about 01, but pretty much after that, the artist (wayne) kept the label name alive more than the label kept artists alive. i personally don't even think of cash money when i think about drake or nicki, and can't even name artists from the label post wayne/baby that aren't nicki and drake. whereas i dont think mystikal, P, silk, c murder, feind, mercedes, i'm bout it, i got the hook up, mia x, kane and abel, sonz of funk, mr serv on, etc without thinking no limit...so many of those artists i just named are forgettable, but the tank engraved their names in my head more than cash money did for their artists.

and yea, no limit also opened up the "real" south in a way rap a lot and organized noize/laface didn't (their artists had a more well rounded sound) and no limit hit levels of success other "real" southern artists at the time had yet to achieve (UGK, 8ball & MJG/Suave House). i'd definitely say No Limit had the bigger impact, while Cash Money has clearly had the longer run.

 

[blankstairz]

depends on how you look at it - like as a full label, crew - i'd go no limit. that tank certified and got play for so many artists who otherwise would not have made any sort of impact.

cash money started of strong as a crew from 98/99 (nationally) to about 01, but pretty much after that, the artist (wayne) kept the label name alive more than the label kept artists alive. i personally don't even think of cash money when i think about drake or nicki, and can't even name artists from the label post wayne/baby that aren't nicki and drake. whereas i dont think mystikal, P, silk, c murder, feind, mercedes, i'm bout it, i got the hook up, mia x, kane and abel, sonz of funk, mr serv on, etc without thinking no limit...so many of those artists i just named are forgettable, but the tank engraved their names in my head more than cash money did for their artists.

and yea, no limit also opened up the "real" south in a way rap a lot and organized noize/laface didn't (their artists had a more well rounded sound) and no limit hit levels of success other "real" southern artists at the time had yet to achieve (UGK, 8ball & MJG/Suave House). i'd definitely say No Limit had the bigger impact, while Cash Money has clearly had the longer run.

No Limit made the regional sound mainstream. They made it cool to be country.

People used to knock the south with stereotypes of being slow or country. P just couldn't be denied and he didn't change or alter their sh*t to be accepted.

Not saying Rap-A-Lot or Organized Noise watered their shyt down, but their style fit more along the lines of traditional rap and hip-hop than what No Limit was doing.

What P did for his time period, everything he dropped at one point was charting (Billboard Pop, and R&B), just because it had the No Limit label. No radio no airplay. 97-98 was crazy. P got a gold single with Sons of Funk.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

No Limit was Dr. J.

Cash Money is Michael Jordan.

They a better version of pretty much everything No Limit did.

Got them in every category besides having a major deal first. If No Limit was the spark, CMR is the flame.​

awful comparison. but its sound catchy so people are prolly gonna dap it.

Dr J & Jordan didn't have similar games. only thing they really had in common was Jordan re-hashing old Dr J dunks in the contest.

cash money & prime no limit didn't have similar games either, aside from the automatic similarities being from the same yard. other than that, we're talking two completely different types of regimes. I don't even play their music together if I want to keep a mood going, aside from certain artists.

No Limit made the regional sound mainstream. They made it cool to be country.

People used to knock the south with stereotypes of being slow or country. P just couldn't be denied and he didn't change or alter their sh*t to be accepted.

Not saying Rap-A-Lot or Organized Noise watered their shyt down, but their style fit more along the lines of traditional rap and hip-hop than what No Limit was doing.

What P did for his time period, everything he dropped at one point was charting (Billboard Pop, and R&B), just because it had the No Limit label. No radio no airplay. 97-98 was crazy. P got a gold single with Sons of Funk.

THIS

some of these young bucks dont understand cuz you kinda had to be there and be cognizant in order to understand no limit's impact, cuz the media aint tryna teach it.

they arguably had the goat run period when you look at the big picture. barely any radio or airplay.

depends on how you look at it - like as a full label, crew - i'd go no limit. that tank certified and got play for so many artists who otherwise would not have made any sort of impact.

cash money started of strong as a crew from 98/99 (nationally) to about 01, but pretty much after that, the artist (wayne) kept the label name alive more than the label kept artists alive. i personally don't even think of cash money when i think about drake or nicki, and can't even name artists from the label post wayne/baby that aren't nicki and drake. whereas i dont think mystikal, P, silk, c murder, feind, mercedes, i'm bout it, i got the hook up, mia x, kane and abel, sonz of funk, mr serv on, etc without thinking no limit...so many of those artists i just named are forgettable, but the tank engraved their names in my head more than cash money did for their artists.

and yea, no limit also opened up the "real" south in a way rap a lot and organized noize/laface didn't (their artists had a more well rounded sound) and no limit hit levels of success other "real" southern artists at the time had yet to achieve (UGK, 8ball & MJG/Suave House). i'd definitely say No Limit had the bigger impact, while Cash Money has clearly had the longer run.

well-said

I cosign everything except youre skipping over when the big tymers carried the label thru 02-04
wayne aint really pick up the torch til "Go DJ". all his albums were falling short before then.

and I cant cosign most of the soldiers being forgettable. I will say that most of them wouldn't have there names ringing if they were signed to say suave house or rap-a-lot.

but yea. dope post.​

 

[blankstairz]

No Limit was like Wu-Tang.

Cash Money was like Bad Boy.

 

[Tom Foolery]

nah

no limit was stuntin in videos long before cash money.

the copying came when they started doing cash money-esque songs like "ice on my wrist".

there was never an instance when P was tryna be like birdman tho. LOL.

You are the biggest liar on this site.

based on what exactly? and how would this be a knock against no limit?
doggfather was snoop's worst album in the '90s. he was still on death row then, and he dropped albums that were even worse later on. none of which have anything to do with no limit.

you don't seem to realize that snoop's career isn't predicated on music quality. he basically made a career off of the fact that he dropped doggystyle. everything he did for the next 10 years was seen as a huge disappointment in real-time, whether it be death row, no limit, or whatever label he was on. but again, hes the lovable character that made doggystyle, so as long as he dropped a big hit single, people still gave his albums a shot and kept him relevant. then he parlayed that into a Hollywood career.

What the hell does all this have to do with NL vs CM impact on the game?

You're just randomly talking about non-sense.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

You are the biggest liar on this site.

what am I lying about?

you can easily go to youtube and see flossy no limit videos that pre-date the existence of cash money videos altogether.

when did you get into rap? you come off real green and a lot of your talking points sound like they come from ill-informed circle jerk threads.

What the hell does all this have to do with NL vs CM impact on the game?

You're just randomly talking about non-sense.

this is the question that I ASKED YOU earlier.

youre the one rambling off.
im simply responding to your rants directly.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Cash money lasted ERA’s and made better music.

Yes cash money modeled themself after No Limit like P modeled no limit after the Bay Area grind.

No limit perfected the game, but I’m giving cash money the edge because of the amount of multi play artists they had and their run was triple that of no limit

 

[Tom Foolery]

what am I lying about?

you can easily go to youtube and see flossy no limit videos that pre-date the existence of cash money videos altogether.

when did you get into rap? you come off real green and a lot of your talking points sound like they come from ill-informed circle jerk threads.

Plenty of rappers had flossy videos. But no one was doing Stuntin' like Big Tymers.

Like where is their How you luv that? They came in the game dusty ass soldiers (from the Bay Area) and flipped when Cash Money pushed the Bling Era.

Don't matter who did it first (Which was Cash Money anyway), It's about Impact. I told you read the thread title.

this is the question that I ASKED YOU earlier.

youre the one rambling off.
im simply responding to your rants directly.

You can't draw a connection because you don't know.

I told you No Limit lost it's Branding influence and people started to realize most albums were trash. People on the label moved to better production. All document facts.

 

[JustCKing]

Plenty of rappers had flossy videos. But no one was doing Stuntin' like Big Tymers.

Like where is their How you luv that? They came in the game dusty ass soldiers (from the Bay Area) and flipped when Cash Money pushed the Bling Era.

Don't matter who did it first (Which was Cash Money anyway), It's about Impact. I told you read the thread title.

You can't draw a connection because you don't know.

I told you No Limit lost it's Branding influence and people started to realize most albums were trash. People on the label moved to better production. All document facts.

Nah, No Limit didn't just flip and go flossy over night:





^^^ both from '98 and the Fiend track is early '98.

 

[JustCKing]

In terms of bling and flossy videos, "Just Be Straight With Me" by Silkk was in that lane. Then you had the album covers.

 

[Tom Foolery]

You do realize the name of this track is Big Timer right?