Who has it WORSE in dating: 40yo Average Looking Women or 40yo Average Earning Men? (No kids)

Who has it WORSE?

  • LEFTOVER Women

    Votes: 50 46.3%
  • BROKE MEN

    Votes: 58 53.7%

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Methuselah

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The man based on my observations. As long as men want sex and put p*ssy on a pedestal, women will always have an upper hand in dating. Online dating apps are filled with men of all ages for a reason.


Ive yet to meet woman who doesn’t have a couple of men somewhere trying to get with her, usually it’s just the man she doesn’t want. Regardless of her age.

The thirst and simps continue even once a woman is “leftover”. Studies also show that after 40, there are more men seeking relationships than women.

And the majority of the time, 40 year old woman are dating 40 year old men. Studies also show that significant age gap relationships are not as common as y’all talk about. That 40 year old man is more likely dating the left over woman because he’s also a left over man.
I wouldn’t look at that as women having the upper hand. I mean, online dating apps are filled with men just trying to smash, so if a woman gets 100s of matches a day and none of them amount to anything but nikkas trying to smash, did she really come out on top? Is that not a very clear rejection from the opposite sex? I mean, who’s faced a stronger rejection from the opposite sex? Is it a woman who got 100s matches, got smashed by dozens of men but is still single, or is it a man who had to swipe right 100s of times to smash a couple of women but ends up with his soulmate?

Women and men can become bitter with age which can lead to either dropping out of the dating market, but because of that thirst, men are still trying smash, and they’ll be open to doing it with someone their own age whether their preference is a relationship with someone younger or not.

Age gap relationships become common when you look at men going into their second marriages.

“There’s a common stereotype that American men who remarry are especially likely to walk down the aisle with a younger woman. A new Pew Research analysis of census data finds that’s largely true.”

 
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Who has it worse

40 Year Old Women, decent career, no kids, average looking 5'4 150lb. Apartment, 2016 Honda Accord, small dog

40 Year Old Man, 50k a year job. no kids, apartment 5'9 200lb. 2014 Ford Expedition
Maybe you should’ve added that the woman froze her eggs or doesn’t want children, because she’s running out of time. The man isn’t. The man can also loose weight, and many people hit their peak earnings between 35 and 54, so the man can improve in those areas. The woman can loose weight too, but that’s the only thing of value ( to men ) that she can improve.
 
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I wouldn’t look at that as women having the upper hand. I mean, online dating apps are filled with men just trying to smash, so if a woman gets 100s of matches a day and none of them amount to anything but nikkas trying to smash, did she really come out on top? Is that not a very clear rejection from the opposite sex? I mean, who’s faced a stronger rejection from the opposite sex? Is it a woman who got 100s matches, got smashed by dozens of men but is still single, or is it a man who had to swipe right 100s of times to smash a couple of women but ends up with his soulmate?

Women and men can become bitter with age which can lead to either dropping out of the dating market, but because of that thirst, men are still trying smash, and they’ll be open to doing it with someone their own age whether their preference is a relationship with someone younger or not.

Age gap relationships become common when you look at men going into their second marriages.

“There’s a common stereotype that American men who remarry are especially likely to walk down the aisle with a younger woman. A new Pew Research analysis of census data finds that’s largely true.”

You beat me to it.
 

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Who has it worse

40 Year Old Women, decent career, no kids, average looking 5'4 150lb. Apartment, 2016 Honda Accord, small dog

40 Year Old Man, 50k a year job. no kids, apartment 5'9 200lb. 2014 Ford Expedition


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shyt ...somebody needs to introduce those two to each other.
 

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The woman of course. A man on average income can still head overseas and come up on a dime if he's got some balls.

An average 40 year old bytch made dude that doesn't know brazillian jiujitsu is fukked.
 
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I wouldn’t look at that as women having the upper hand. I mean, online dating apps are filled with men just trying to smash, so if a woman gets 100s of matches a day and none of them amount to anything but nikkas trying to smash, did she really come out on top? Is that not a very clear rejection from the opposite sex? I mean, who’s faced a stronger rejection from the opposite sex? Is it a woman who got 100s matches, got smashed by dozens of men but is still single, or is it a man who had to swipe right 100s of times to smash a couple of women but ends up with his soulmate?

Women and men can become bitter with age which can lead to either dropping out of the dating market, but because of that thirst, men are still trying smash, and they’ll be open to doing it with someone their own age whether their preference is a relationship with someone younger or not.

Age gap relationships become common when you look at men going into their second marriages.

“There’s a common stereotype that American men who remarry are especially likely to walk down the aisle with a younger woman. A new Pew Research analysis of census data finds that’s largely true.”

100+ matches >>> maybe a dozen of matches no matter how you look at it

What if all the guys' matches are not compatible? With that volume alone, as long as the woman isn't straight up not trying, she should be able to finess at least 1 to get what she wants. You think every guy is turning down relationships? Not everyone is a player no matter how much they pretend to be.

If the guy fukks up, that could be it since the rest could flake or turn out to be not what they expected. 1 out of 100 flaking means basically nothing for the woman.

Women win on dating apps period regardless of age. IRL you could argue otherwise.
 

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If that woman kept herself up and still looks good then no one cares how old she is. And It's still really possible to get pregnant at 40 lol.

Plus there's always a 50 + breh who sees her as "young"
This is what people miss. Is there a proverbial wall? Yes, because women are primarily valued for our youth and looks because that’s what attracts a man and we have a certain window for pregnancy.

But here’s the deal- if you’re a woman who only dates older, you’re good until you’re actually old. Imagine a 40, 45, year old man giving you grief about being 33? Or a 55 year old man giving you grief about being 40? A lot of women make the mistake of not expanding their dating options as they get older.

The couples in my family who got married in college are the exact same age (and they’ve all been together for 50+ years).

The women who got married later are all younger than their husbands. 🤷🏾‍♀️ After 30, you should definitely pay attention to the guys who are a little older because the guys who are your same age may decide to dip younger.

When you use a little more logic you can see things for what they are and move accordingly. This is why some women never have issues with men. They adjust and play their hand appropriately.
 

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Both answers are subjective to be honest 🤷🏾‍♂️.

There is no definitive right or wrong answer 🤷🏾‍♂️.

There's a lot of good looking women over 40yrs old finding love and happiness someplace 🤷🏾‍♂️.

There's a lot of average earning men over 40yrs old with whole girlfriends to call on speed dial 🤷🏾‍♂️.
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If everyone gets in where they fit in, there aren’t any problems. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Hot older women still have options.

Older men with money REALLY have options- ESPECIALLY if they are hot (Morris Chestnut, Boris Kodjoe at 55 can get 25-55). That’s not most men.

Everybody else gotta realize that most of us are average folks and need to link up with each other lol
 

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All facts. And I cannot wait until this generation (20-30) get into their 40s and 50s. Its going to be so funny and sad at the same time.
If he’s handsome gang he will have an advantage. But It’s far less handsome gang men to begin with—women have always been the more attractive sex. Most women are not attracted to most men. More men are attracted to average women than women who are attracted to average men.

Factor in age and a truly handsome gang man in his 40s is a small percentage of the population. Honestly Bw who were attractive in their 20s and 30s just need to continue to keep fit, eat healthy, and have a good regime on skin care and because of how bw age in general, the attractive ones can still look good (if they do the above) even in their 40s.

Most young brehettes aren’t interested in 40 year old men unless he’s tricking. The young brehettes either want a Breh her age or a breh in his thirties.

the average 40 something brehs are going for the 30-40 year old women. The only ones with the dating advantage are the ones with money, resources and the few who aged well and still have hairlines and no dad bods. The op’s example is just not that man though—if he’s that age and he’s only making 50k, he’s likely a breh dating an average looking “leftover” woman, let’s just keep it buck.

It’s interesting that Brehs who struggle with women or who are perpetually single think that their luck magically changes when they’re 40 and that they suddenly have access to women they didn’t before. It’s a weird fantasy that I see on this site all the time—it gives Brehs hope to believe this myth, but the reality becomes harsh once they’re in that age range and still have the same dating struggles they had before.
Not going to front, this kills me too.

The guys who were able to pull girls off looks and personality in HS and college are the guys who will have relationships and experience from a young age, and who will know what it feels like to be around a woman who actually wants them for THEM.

If you were fine and broke in college/out of college, you ain’t have nooooo problem getting women. Maybe you didn’t get the fine boughie girls who understood how the world works and needed a man with $, but MOST girls don’t know the game at that level.

All this college kids parting at night, spring break, in the summer- those girls are around because they are genuinely attracted to those guys. And those guys grow up, get their money right and career on track and now have the looks, personality and money. Best spot to be in. THOSE ARE THE ONES who are on top of the world in their late 30s-40s.

Like I said, I personally don’t do the older thing, but if a 50 Yr old Morris or Boris is in my face, that’s an older man who will get whatever he wants. But that’s because it’s understood he can take care of a family and the kids will be cute.

The older man/woman thing is about people who are the exception to the rule. No younger woman with common sense is going to tie herself to a man 2x her age with an average income who doesn’t even own a home. 🤔 And if she comes from a decent family they wouldn’t set her up like that.

And a successful man who literally has his pick of women isn’t going to pick an older woman unless she’s beautiful and is bringing something tangible to the table.

This stuff should be common sense.
 

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I wouldn’t look at that as women having the upper hand. I mean, online dating apps are filled with men just trying to smash, so if a woman gets 100s of matches a day and none of them amount to anything but nikkas trying to smash, did she really come out on top? Is that not a very clear rejection from the opposite sex? I mean, who’s faced a stronger rejection from the opposite sex? Is it a woman who got 100s matches, got smashed by dozens of men but is still single, or is it a man who had to swipe right 100s of times to smash a couple of women but ends up with his soulmate?

Women and men can become bitter with age which can lead to either dropping out of the dating market, but because of that thirst, men are still trying smash, and they’ll be open to doing it with someone their own age whether their preference is a relationship with someone younger or not.

Age gap relationships become common when you look at men going into their second marriages.

“There’s a common stereotype that American men who remarry are especially likely to walk down the aisle with a younger woman. A new Pew Research analysis of census data finds that’s largely true.”


The average woman has far more men seeking her attention for dating and sex than the average man has women seeking him for such.

dating apps have a higher percentage of men on them period. Some men don’t even get past the conversation part to smash let alone take things off the app. It’s true that men are more likely to seek sexual relationships than women when it comes to the apps though. women are more picky about who they match with to begin with according to studies, so it’s not as if women are sleeping with all those guys, they sleep with a select group. Only a select group of men are smashing with a lot of women off apps.


Online Dating: Men are getting f****d (just not literally)

Men are proactive and approach because they want woman and have no choice, because women aren’t doing the same to them. Women don’t have to approach men because they know men want them and will approach them. The very fact that y’all deal with so many rejections just to get her number in the first place—something women don’t deal with, speaks to the inherent drive men have when it comes to women, that women just don’t have to the same degree. Keep in mind I’m talking about dating not marriage.

You assume that because men get rejected a lot that they eventually will meet their soulmate. But that’s not something that can be really verified as it’s highly subjective and isn’t the case for every man. I will agree that men have less standards and are more forgiving than women—women tend to be picky and more selective.

as for age gap relationships that’s based on second marriages… but how many bm are getting married twice let alone married at all lol. Look at our marriage rate breh.

Significant Age gap relationships are not happening as frequently as y’all talk about them. They’re just not. Most men and women are dating and marrying within their age bracket.
 

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women have it better at every level except for the absolute top of the hierarchy that can only be occupied by men*
If you are a man and you want a career that puts you at the absolute top of the hierarchy what careers should you be aiming for? President of the United States? Movie star? Singer?
 

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5'9 200lb breh needs to lose weight man.

But Im gonna say women have it worse. But men in that situation are far more dangerous. Nothing more likely to go on a murder spree than a nikka past his prime (or in his prime, but getting no p*ssy) that feel alone alienated and dusty.

One way ticket to radicalization through manosphere YT videos, message boards, and a quick trip to a local gunshow before shooting up a church or some woman that rejected him :wow:
 
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