Who in your opinion is the DEFINITION of a "vanilla midget"???

[Amor fati]

Someone that is below 5ft7, does a huge amount of flipping and highflyin... oh and a spot monkey and lastly has a body like Enzo or Rockstar Spud.
Chris Benoit and Eddie ain't no vanilla midget's far from that Chris and Eddie were around 5'8 and I think Kurt is 5'8, it's funny how nobody refers Kurt as a VM.

 

[Amor fati]

Tony Neese and Noam Dar

Na Tony Neese ain't no Vanilla midget. Dar is though he has it written all over him.

 

[OVER]

I watched a match with him and Kushida. Smh it was like the equivalent of Kota wrestling a blow up doll. Except, the blow up doll dominated the match .

I was first exposed to him because he and Kota Ibushi were favored to win the cruiserweight tournament. I knew Kota from NJPW on AXS but I ain't heard of ZSB JR. until that point. I watched his stuff on youtube like"I don't know about this" then he got a hero's welcome along with multiple chants that dried up when Fullsail saw him wrestle for the first time.

 

[OVER]

I don't think vanilla midget has much to do with size anymore, especially when it comes to physique. Most vanilla midgets are in relatively good shape Tony Nese, Eddie Edwards, and IMO TM16. For me it's guys who get away with having no mic skills, no charisma, can't work a match besides getting their spots in. A lot of these guys get away with this on the independent scene because they can have 20+ minute kick out fests there but when they come to the WWE and are subjected to 50/50 booking and six minute dusty finish matches with Dolph Ziggler and are given wwe scripts that's when we see their flaws and are of accused of a "TSC heel turn".

@Amor fati
Tony Nese looks and wrestles like Neville and he's a heel but we don't know why and WWE doesn't care enough to tell us why. That's is the reason he's perceived at least for me as a vanilla midget.

 

[Amor fati]

I don't think vanilla midget has much to do with size anymore, especially when it comes to physique. Most vanilla midgets are in relatively good shape Tony Nese, Eddie Edwards, and IMO TM16. For me it's guys who get away with having no mic skills, no charisma, can't work a match besides getting their spots in. A lot of these guys get away with this on the independent scene because they can have 20+ minute kick out fests there but when they come to the WWE and are subjected to 50/50 booking and six minute dusty finish matches with Dolph Ziggler and are given wwe scripts that's when we see their flaws and are of accused of a "TSC heel turn".

@Amor fati
Tony Nese looks and wrestles like Neville and he's a heel but we don't know why and WWE doesn't care enough to tell us why. That's is the reason he's perceived at least for me as a vanilla midget.

Alright I see. Tony Nese looks like some counter part/alternative version of Neville kinda like Nightmare and Siegfried, Kyo and Iori, or Ryu and Ken. E should kinda change his gear and add in something else. Now that you went in detail, I can say now that Neese is a Vanilla midget.

 

[Henzo]

Finn Balor.

I was willing to give dude a chance but he's fukkin trash. All her does is running dropkicks and double foot stomps because he's too weak to lift anyone. His mic work is generic as fukk too. All he has going for him is his entrance. Dude sucks.

savage

Russo never lied

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

A little pint sized fukker running around doing flips & dropkicks.

No real personality that can distinguish themselves from the pack.

Ex:
Apollo Crews
Finn balor
Eddie Edwards
Davey Richards
Majority of the cruiserweight division

 

[SpursFanSinceNovember2017]

Vanilla = Boring
Midget = Small

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

wrestling fans in 2013 yall

Still a fan of his. Have been since 2011. Dont need to see a push to stan a wrestler. Thats stupid

 

[OVER]

What do y'all think of Mike Bennet? I feel like he's super bland, but he does have a character, but he's essentially a lesser version of The Miz. He's average in all categories and I've seen several of his matches this year and can't remember any besides thinking they were passable. He's perceived by fans to have gotten in the WWE/NXT (allegedly) as a package deal with his wife. The more I think about it Mike Bennet being a vanilla midget might be the least of his problems.

 

[Superkick Party]

What do y'all think of Mike Bennet? I feel like he's super bland, but he does have a character, but he's essentially a lesser version of The Miz. He's average in all categories and I've seen several of his matches this year and can't remember any besides thinking they were passable. He's perceived by fans to have gotten in the WWE/NXT (allegedly) as a package deal with his wife. The more I think about it Mike Bennet being a vanilla midget might be the least of his problems.

He wishes he was a vanilla midget, Bennett's just trash period

 

[StatUS]

What do y'all think of Mike Bennet? I feel like he's super bland, but he does have a character, but he's essentially a lesser version of The Miz. He's average in all categories and I've seen several of his matches this year and can't remember any besides thinking they were passable. He's perceived by fans to have gotten in the WWE/NXT (allegedly) as a package deal with his wife. The more I think about it Mike Bennet being a vanilla midget might be the least of his problems.

Wanna be HHH

Kingdom was dope though, plus he seems like a good dude so let's see what happens

 

[Mack de la Rocha]

ZSJ

Kickpads, rock music and spots.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Roderick Strong in 05

ZSJ

TM61

 

[Mack de la Rocha]

Roderick Strong in 05

ZSJ

TM61

Essential Vanilla Midget LP Cover Art, these 3[/QUOTE]