who remembers when Joe Budden went in on Jay z??

[Rominati]

I feel Jay was gettin at Joe when he took his beat and dropped the Pump it up Freestyle.


I think Jay set this beef off.


Joey got him when he took his track back. But Jay did a nice lil sublime on that BP3 joint.


Overall lyrically I feel Buddens got him. But Jay obviously wasnt going at the same velocity joey was.

 

[Digga38]

Jay won that "battle" by using politics.

he didn't win that battle on record.

I'm starting to think the whole art of war/48 laws current in hip hop was sort of detrimental to hip hop. it's no longer the quality of the music or your skills. it has become strictly about politics. Jay could battle almost anyone and he'll always "win" if he frames it right no matter what he actually spits on the mic.

This is true....Jay became the greatest behind the scenes not for what he actually did on the MIC (even though his work is considerable)

Buddens did get at him something fierce....MM3 is a classic and comparable to any Jay album except Blueprint

 

[DoomzdayzV]

MM3 is a classic and comparable to any Jay album except Blueprint

huh?

 

[Digga38]

huh?

I didnt stutter nikka

MM3 better then >= anything JAY got except Blueprint 1

 

[Bugsmoran]

ha

 

[Mike Statik]

I didnt stutter nikka

MM3 better then >= anything JAY got except Blueprint 1

ima HUUUUGE budden fan... but come on

RD >>> any budden album or mixtape

 

[mvp_status]

I didnt stutter nikka

MM3 better then >= anything JAY got except Blueprint 1

my man said this with confidence too

 

[Bugsmoran]

I didnt stutter nikka

MM3 better then >= anything JAY got except Blueprint 1

 

[502Nels]

under jay I don't remember release dates bein a problem at all....nikkas mighta been salty abou the lack of promotion...but this "they won't release my album" shyt from budden wuz all ducktales.....he even admitted he didn't turn it in after jay came out and said he hadn't heard it.

Nah, Joes problem was the lack of support he was gettin from Def Jam. That was always his problem.

What's the point of releasing a album if no one at the label is behind it. A lot of artist at that time had the same problem with Jay and Def Jam.

 

[Nefflum nigga]

Budden threw all darts at jay, on that sh1t yall posted and all on pump it up remix

 

[director_of_bands]

Who was better on the pump it up freestyle jay or Joe

Joe Budden & Jay-z ( Pump it up ) - YouTube

EDIT- sorry didn't see someone posted this

Joe...I really believe Jay did not want it with Joe around that time...Joe had a mixtape floatin around too where he was killin all rocafella instrumentals...I played that mixttape nonstop...

 

[Busby]

- Jay did Joe dirty by ignoring the request to do the Pump It Up remix, then weeks late he freestyles over the beat for the S. Carter mixtape.
- Then Joe returned fire with the on the Pump It Up (Joe vs. Joe version)
- The Dame brought Joe over to The Roc during their last days. This didn’t do anything and Joe was back on Def Jam with “The Growth” in limbo
- Shots at Jay-Z throughout MM2 and then finally on MM3 Joe was in kamakazi mode (no deal, nothing to lose)

Word?....story on this..

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Word?....story on this..

Jay took the job at def jam so Budden reached out to him to get ona remix for pump it up..jay got back to him saying a ridiculous price Budden was like what??! You're the VP of the label were on the same team 2 Weeks later jay hit the beat for free released it as a freestyle

Not taking sides but common jay

 

[Busby]

Jay took the job at def jam so Budden reached out to him to get ona remix for pump it up..jay got back to him saying a ridiculous price Budden was like what??! You're the VP of the label were on the same team 2 Weeks later jay hit the beat for free released it as a freestyle

Not taking sides but common jay

wow..that is some old bytch shyt..

I bet Hov was like when he recorded it...

 

[Digga38]

ima HUUUUGE budden fan... but come on

RD >>> any budden album or mixtape

when the last time you played RD....ill wait