Who will have the better career between MKG and Harrison Barnes?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

As a rookie, leading everybody in a playoff game with a game high 26 points while getting 10 rebounds but no, he's not a catalyst :ohword:

26 points on 26 shots. Scoring the majority of his points, posting up a 6 ft 2 PG, because the Spurs were willing to live with him getting off shots, rather than Curry or Klay. You put MKG on that team and he would be capable of the same impact, if not more.

He IS a catalyst whether your contrarian logic likes it or not. He can create his own shot, he is aggressive, and he's a balanced player. Downside? He overshoots sometimes and he's not the brighest, but so what? He's a rookie.

A catalyst in what though? You're acting as if he's some great offensive threat. HE'S STILL A COMPLIMENTARY PLAYER. He was the fourth option all year long in the starting lineup and that was only because there was a revolving door at the 5. If Bogut was healthy the entire season, Barnes would've be relegated to being the last option in the starting lineup.

The fact he's a third/fourth option on the Warriors is a testament to their depth NOT because Barnes is bad option.

If he was on the Bobcats he'd have way more of an impact than MKG let be real here

:nikkawhat:

When did I say he was a bad option?

Nah, he wouldn't have more impact. I watched them both this season, and the only area that Barnes would trump him in is stretching the floor (shooting and at a minor - scoring). Passing, crashing the boards, shutting down perimeter players, in transition, playing the passing lanes, help defense, slashing, tying up loose ends on both sides of the court - MKG had more of an impact.

 

[USSInsiders]

26 points on 26 shots. Scoring the majority of his points, posting up a 6 ft 2 PG, because the Spurs were willing to live with him getting off shots, rather than Curry or Klay. You put MKG on that team and he would be capable of the same impact, if not more.



A catalyst in what though? You're acting as if he's some great offensive threat. HE'S STILL A COMPLIMENTARY PLAYER. He was the fourth option all year long in the starting lineup and that was only because there was a revolving door at the 5. If Bogut was healthy the entire season, Barnes would've be relegated to being the last option in the starting lineup.



:nikkawhat:

When did I say he was a bad option?

Nah, he wouldn't have more impact. I watched them both this season, and the only area that Barnes would trump him in is stretching the floor (shooting and at a minor - scoring). Passing, crashing the boards, shutting down perimeter players, in transition, playing the passing lanes, help defense, tying up loose ends on both sides of the court - MKG had more of an impact.

Indeed, both of these dudes are complementary players, but in my opinion Barnes is a complementary player because of his situation not because of his skillset (cough, cough, MKG, cough).


A catalyst doesn't imply he's a threat necessarily, but rather that he's capable of creating for himself skillfully, and his way of playing is dynamic. I just don't see MKG being anything more than an average to slightly above average role player.

MKG is whack b.

at caping for Monta, D-Blows, AND Michael Kant-Shoot-For-shyt

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Indeed, both of these dudes are complementary players, but in my opinion Barnes is a complementary player because of his situation not because of his skillset (cough, cough, MKG, cough).

Barnes is a complementary player until proven otherwise. What are you saying exactly, that Barnes could be a star on another team if he was the #1 /#2 option?

Barnes still has trouble creating in the halfcourt, trouble handling the ball, trouble making the right decision(s), trouble with rotating on defense, trouble with being assertive/aggressive etc etc. His skillset doesn't warrant any more of a role, than where he's currently at now.

A catalyst doesn't imply he's a threat necessarily, but rather that he's capable of creating for himself skillfully, and his way of playing is dynamic. I just don't see MKG being anything more than an average to slightly above average role player.

He isn't as bad as advertised in college, but he isn't capable of creating for himself 'skillfully'. His way of playing is dynamic, what kind of vague bullshyt is that? MKG's ceiling is difficult to gauge, because if he doesn't fix his shooting mechanics there won't be much room for him to grow; if he does, along the same lines as Wall, then he will have the higher ceiling out of the two. He practically does everything else better than Barnes.

At this stage, there's really no significant difference between the two, where one is definitively better than the other. Barnes has been fortunate because he's been in a winning culture since the start of the season and MKG the total opposite. Far too early to tell who's gonna have the better career.

at caping for Monta, D-Blows, AND Michael Kant-Shoot-For-shyt

You're a cornball.

 

[954UAlreadyknow]

I think Barnes is better but I'm not impressed by what he did yesterday.

If you getting gaurded by a pg in the post you should dominate him. Being that inefficient showed me what his weaknesses are.

If he works on his handle and abilty to create his own shot better he can be a star

 

[mastermind]

Barnes can be a super star in this league /thread

how can a perimeter player with no handles and unable to create his shot effectively be an NBA superstar?

and why was this thread upped after dude took 26 shots to score 26 points?

 

[C-NICE]

how can a perimeter player with no handles and unable to create his shot effectively be an NBA superstar?

and why was this thread upped after dude took 26 shots to score 26 points?

Can't create his own shot can't handle the ball did you not see any of the game how about the last shot he hit where he crossed manu and pulled up for the J or how about the pump fake and the drive to the basket for the dunk stop trying to this man. He is a matchup problem give him credit he's a ROOKIE and led the team in scoring and rebounding last night in game 4 of the western semi PLAYOFFS

now his shooting percentage is another topic

 

[mastermind]

Can't create his own shot can't handle the ball did you not see any of the game how about the last shot he hit where he crossed manu and pulled up for the J or how about the pump fake and the drive to the basket for the dunk stop trying to this man. He is a matchup problem give him credit he's a ROOKIE and led the team in scoring and rebounding last night in game 4 of the western semi PLAYOFFS

now his shooting percentage is another topic

now realize he is doing this against players taht were 4 inches shorter tahn him on the post.

He a role player. Nothing is wrong with that.

 

[C-NICE]

now realize he is doing this against players taht were 4 inches shorter tahn him on the post.

He a role player. Nothing is wrong with that.

just like russel scores against players who are shorter or not quicker than him if you have an advantage you use it night in and night out he's probably gonna be either taller or quicker than the guy that's guarding him

 

[mastermind]

just like russel scores against players who are shorter or not quicker than him if you have an advantage you use it night in and night out he's probably gonna be either taller or quicker than the guy that's guarding him

the Spurs did that intentionally to Barnes and he proved them right by going 8-26.

You're having a stinker here breh

 

[C-NICE]

the Spurs did that intentionally to Barnes and he proved them right by going 8-26.

You're having a stinker here breh

So when westbrook kobe melo and those guys go 11-30 and have 30 points its ok and they intentionally let him get 26 and 10 a rookie but you got it breh I'm pretty sure that pop is like guys let the rookie post up parker or drive on manu. The point is that the kid has a bright future and is showing it on the most crucial stage against a pretty good team.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Cousins wouldn't have started over Lopez, you can dead that right now. If Cousins went down the same path that Favors did - he wouldn't have started in New Jersey and he wouldn't have started in Utah either. He would be in the EXACT same position, Favors is currently in - on the bench.



Lindsey has already said Favors is very much in their future plans and named him as one of the core players that the Jazz are gonna build around (namely as anchoring their defense).

Cousins can play the 4 fam.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

now realize he is doing this against players taht were 4 inches shorter tahn him on the post.

He a role player. Nothing is wrong with that.

He's averaging 16 and 6 in the playoffs fam. You do realize he played Denver in the playoffs too right? As a rookie he has a shoots 36% from the 3. He's only going to get better. He now has a pull up jumper off the dribble that he didn't have at the start of the season. If Paul George is a stud HB will be 1 too.

 

[Walt]

Cornball Corduroy Barnes got da innanets goin nuts.

 

[SoulController]

Black Falcon soaring

Gilly stuck with that horrible team hes gonna be asked to do too much on O as the years go on

 

[Trizz54]

MKG is mad overrated ...Barnes is way more talented