Whoopi Goldberg: “I’m An American, I’m Not An African-American!”

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What does being born and raised in Africa have to do with her genealogy?
Once again you are talking about two different things and you aren't even aware of it.

My younger brother was born in England, my youngest was born in America, they are still 100% Nigerian by blood.

You need to define if you are talking about genealogy or nationality. It's kind of difficult to follow your post when you mix the two


See my previous post. That said, I know what I'm speaking about, I don't know what several people in this thread are even trying to say as they keep jumping back and forth on the terms.
 

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What does being born and raised in Africa have to do with her genealogy?
Once again you are talking about two different things and you aren't even aware of it.

My younger brother was born in England, my youngest was born in America, they are still 100% Nigerian by blood.

You need to define if you are talking about genealogy or nationality. It's kind of difficult to follow your post when you mix the two

I'm pretty sure he/she are making up their own rules.

And another poster mixing up information dodged my question when I asked them what the definition of African American was.
 

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IF you are speaking of me, you are misrepresenting what I'm saying. People don't seem to be understanding the terms.

Charlize Theron IS and identifies as African American, yet she is also white.
Her origin and place of birth is Africa
her ethnicity is African-American
Her genealogy is French, German, and Dutch

Origin - person's social background or ancestry

An ethnic group or ethnicity is a category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural or national experience. Unlike most other social groups, ethnicity is primarily an inherited status

Genealogy - Genealogy (from Greek: γενεά genea, "generation"; and λόγος logos, "knowledge"), also known as family history, is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral interviews, historical records, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family and to demonstrate kinship and pedigrees of its members. Genealogy (from Greek: γενεά genea, "generation"; and λόγος logos, "knowledge"), also known as family history, is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral interviews, historical records, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family and to demonstrate kinship and pedigrees of its members




IF you weren't speaking of me.... please disregard :ehh:

the bytch didnt buy a house in america until 2007. stop
shes not AMERICAN.... she is EUROPEAN BORN in AFRICA. She is not a native of africa. stop please.
she can be that dumb bytch not going around calling herself european african, but saying shes african american all she wants.
she still is wrong. and looks foolish using that wording
 

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So to make sure I'm right, AA is basically a short hand way of defining a black person's ethnicity+nationality since we don't know where our specific family is from, unless you know where your parents are born then you are that ethnicity + nationality?

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Was she born in africa? Lived in africa? She's right. She's an American of African descent. Just like i am. Just like most of you are.

Exactly.

Black ppl and minorities are only "Americans" when some terrorist ish jumps off :mjpls: Then we all "gotta stand together as Americans"

Then after that we're back to being "_______- American" LOL
 

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IF you are speaking of me, you are misrepresenting what I'm saying. People don't seem to be understanding the terms.

Charlize Theron IS and identifies as African American, yet she is also white.
Her origin and place of birth is Africa
her ethnicity is African-American
Her genealogy is French, German, and Dutch

Origin - person's social background or ancestry

An ethnic group or ethnicity is a category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural or national experience. Unlike most other social groups, ethnicity is primarily an inherited status

Genealogy - Genealogy (from Greek: γενεά genea, "generation"; and λόγος logos, "knowledge"), also known as family history, is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral interviews, historical records, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family and to demonstrate kinship and pedigrees of its members. Genealogy (from Greek: γενεά genea, "generation"; and λόγος logos, "knowledge"), also known as family history, is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral interviews, historical records, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family and to demonstrate kinship and pedigrees of its members

You sounding really uneducated right now.

First of all, stop talking about genealogy. This thread isn't about that. It's about the term African American and how Whoopi['s dumbass] thinks it defines her nationality/citizenship. She is an American.

ok

we got that

She is also Black so she is a Black American. Some Black people ALSO (key word) refer to themselves as African American. Black and African American are terms under race/ethnicity. Race is very broad, which is why there tends to be a "Other" option when defining your race on documents.

Since African American is a race that refers to a black person, Charlie is therefore not African American.

So shut your dumbass up.

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the bytch didnt buy a house in america until 2007. stop
shes not AMERICAN.... she is EUROPEAN BORN in AFRICA. She is not a native of africa. stop please.
she can be that dumb bytch not going around calling herself european african, but saying shes african american all she wants.
she still is wrong. and looks foolish using that wording

Bruh :mindblown:


She was BORN and RAISED in Africa. BORN there. Her genetics are obviously a mix of all kinds of shyt, but her country of origin and ethnicity is African-American.

You're issues seem to be more about how we define the terms, actually. I put the definitions up there for you. Your ethnicity is social and cultural. African-American tells your ethnicity, NOT your genealogy and it was never intended to. To the core of this thread, Whoopi is speaking on her own personal ethnicity. She identifies as AMERICAN, and on an ethnic basis, it holds merit. OF COURSE she has African DNA and roots, but that is a different category, that isn't how your ethnicity is determined.
 

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Since African American is a race that refers to a black person, Charlie is therefore not African A
This is what I don't understand. How and why does African American refer to race when it implies it in no way in the word. It just uses a continent instead of being specific with a country.
 

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Bruh :mindblown:


She was BORN and RAISED in Africa. BORN there. Her genetics are obviously a mix of all kinds of shyt, but her country of origin and ethnicity is African-American.

You're issues seem to be more about how we define the terms, actually. I put the definitions up there for you. Your ethnicity is social and cultural. African-American tells your ethnicity, NOT your genealogy and it was never intended to. To the core of this thread, Whoopi is speaking on her own personal ethnicity. She identifies as AMERICAN, and on an ethnic basis, it holds merit. OF COURSE she has African DNA and roots, but that is a different category, that isn't how your ethnicity is determined.


wow. you're fukking dumb. its sad.

HER GENETICS IS A MIX OF GERMAN DUTCH AND FRENCH

SHE WAS BORN TO WHITE PEOPLE IN AFRICA.

HER GENETICS IS NOT NATIVE TO AFRICA

HER BLOODLINE ARE IMMIGRANTS.

SHE IS A EUROPEAN


SHE WAS BORN IN AFRICA


SHE IS NOT AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



smfh
 

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This thread is getting out of hand.


Despite what we WANT it to mean, or what it SHOULD mean, African-American means American Nationality with African roots.

If you say "I do not want to be called African American" you are saying you that you do not have African roots.


Is the term a bit broad? Yes very, but stop acting we dont know what the fukk it means :martin:


this fukkin thread bres. Let Dave Matthews start talking about the struggles of being "an African-American" and lets pretend like everyone here wouldn't be like :what:.



Do you nikkas get a kick out of being obtuse? :leostare:
 

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This is what I don't understand. How and why does African American refer to race when it implies it in no way in the word. It just uses a continent instead of being specific with a country.

The words are confusing the shyt out of you lot :ohlawd:

I pointed it out earlier, if I were to call myself an African American American I would be correct in how I combined my ethnicity and nationality because African American is an ethnicity and American is the official nationality term for America. Some people didn't like to be called Black so they called themselves African American, but that didn't automatically transfer that word into it's own national title. Every country has one official term. It's not that hard to grasp. :ohlawd:
 

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This is what I don't understand. How and why does African American refer to race when it implies it in no way in the word. It just uses a continent instead of being specific with a country.

See my above post.

Its not the best terminology, but we all understand what it means
 

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You sounding really uneducated right now.

First of all, stop talking about genealogy. This thread isn't about that. It's about the term African American and how Whoopi['s dumbass] thinks it defines her nationality/citizenship. She is an American.

ok

we got that

She is also Black so she is a Black American. Some Black people ALSO (key word) refer to themselves as African American. Black and African American are terms under race/ethnicity. Race is very broad, which is why there tends to be a "Other" option when defining your race on documents.

Since African American is a race that refers to a black person, Charlie is therefore not African American.

So shut your dumbass up.

:camby:


:snoop: I'm trying to hard to help ya'll nikkas man...

Bruh...

BLACK is a race
AFRICAN-AMERICAN is an ethnicity.

The problem is too many people use the terms as interchangeable when they are close but not the case. You can be black, living in ANY country and still be part of the black race. If you are black and you never lived in America, you are NOT African-American. In the US, they tend to be used synonymously, but in the world, not so much. Haitians are still black, but not necessarily African American.


Why is this hard for you to grasp?
 
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