Who's more lyrically skilled, group A or group B?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

ur not black op dont speak on this rap shyt fakkit

nikka stfu and ask your mom how black my dikk is.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

People from Group B are "subject matter guys"...you overrate that talent. As a nikka that raps, I can tell you the perception about group A is FALSE...it's way more difficult and takes more brainpower to keep a pattern up and have 16s/24s full of nothing but solid bars, threats, and schemes....vs loosely fitting poetry over a beat and making 3 syllables match maximum...not really having to impress anybody, and letting your train of thought run, or rhyming around personal experiences, current events. nikkas thinking they're doing something because they said something "left field" but only used two rhyming words.
It's like pac. Pac didn't have a gang of technical skill and that allowed him a lot of space for subject matter. It doesn't diminish what he does, but it DOES put it in a real light...it's not hard to be prolific when you're not trying to impress other rappers. You can be basic and vary your subjects quite easily because there is either an easy format to follow, or no format at all...you're not making new formats or catching flows...you're talking over beats with slight rhyme and melody...vs actual rapping.

 

[Tunes]

Probably A in overall.


But I think B would make doper music.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

B. It's more impressive what they do with their lyrics.

 

[mobbinfms]

Prodigy doesn't stay within patterns or have a dope cadence, either...when you're focused on subject matter, you are a doper poet but you sacrifice technicality....Pharoahe Monch, Nas, and Elzhi have that balance. TI as well. They can pop syllables, keep up a pattern, AND paint you a picture. So could pun. I see what you're doing here, but no. P started getting outshined by Havoc after Hell on Earth because of his sloppiness. Dude wants to paint a picture so bad he forgets to stay within the lines...and ends up barely rapping.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

People from Group B are "subject matter guys"...you overrate that talent. As a nikka that raps, I can tell you the perception about group A is FALSE...it's way more difficult and takes more brainpower to keep a pattern up and have 16s/24s full of nothing but solid bars, threats, and schemes....vs loosely fitting poetry over a beat and making 3 syllables match maximum...not really having to impress anybody, and letting your train of thought run, or rhyming around personal experiences, current events. nikkas thinking they're doing something because they said something "left field" but only used two rhyming words.
It's like pac. Pac didn't have a gang of technical skill and that allowed him a lot of space for subject matter. It doesn't diminish what he does, but it DOES put it in a real light...it's not hard to be prolific when you're not trying to impress other rappers. You can be basic and vary your subjects quite easily because there is either an easy format to follow, or no format at all...you're not making new formats or catching flows...you're talking over beats with slight rhyme and melody...vs actual rapping.

I used to rap too and I couldn't disagree more. Rhyming a bunch of syllables and saying clever punchlines and similes is way easier and more simple than abstract thoughtful lyrics.

I can easily mimic Styles P or Camron. I couldn't begin to mimic Posdnous or Andre 3000.

 

[mobbinfms]

Even with his picture painting, P always spit Mini-vignettes or solely from his or a "dunn" perspective. He never personified an object or pushed the boundaries of his storytelling like Styles has...

 

[IllmaticDelta]

B

Any list with Lloyd Banks I just can't

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Just a coli survey. Not who's music you like better. Just who's the more talented group of lyricists.

My guess is group A will win in a landslide. That's the wrong choice though.

Group A:
Big Punisher
Jadakiss
Fabolous
Styles P
Lloyd Banks

Group B:
Andre 3000
Q-Tip
Posdnous
Grand Puba
Zevluv X/MF Doom

I was gonna put group B cuz 3000 shyts on all of group A, but qtips weak ass lyrics almost cancel it out while group A doesn't have any obvious weak lyricists

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I used to rap too and I couldn't disagree more. Rhyming a bunch of syllables and saying clever punchlines and similes is way easier and more simple than abstract thoughtful lyrics.

I can easily mimic Styles P or Camron. I couldn't begin to mimic Posdnous or Andre 3000.

Styles P and Cam'ron aren't very similar, only on a surface level.
Posdnous sounds like freestyling.
Andre = A midwest/western hybrid rapper with a southern accent and conscious mores. Nothing else.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Styles P and Cam'ron aren't very similar, only on a surface level.
Posdnous sounds like freestyling.
Andre = A midwest/western hybrid rapper with a southern accent and conscious mores. Nothing else.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Styles is actually quite poetic compared to the others in group A.

 

[boskey]

Group B has a higher probability of producing some wack shyt while Jada, Styles and Pun are 100% guaranteed fire. I like Group A...

 

[Knicksman20]

People from Group B are "subject matter guys"...you overrate that talent. As a nikka that raps, I can tell you the perception about group A is FALSE...it's way more difficult and takes more brainpower to keep a pattern up and have 16s/24s full of nothing but solid bars, threats, and schemes....vs loosely fitting poetry over a beat and making 3 syllables match maximum...not really having to impress anybody, and letting your train of thought run, or rhyming around personal experiences, current events. nikkas thinking they're doing something because they said something "left field" but only used two rhyming words.
It's like pac. Pac didn't have a gang of technical skill and that allowed him a lot of space for subject matter. It doesn't diminish what he does, but it DOES put it in a real light...it's not hard to be prolific when you're not trying to impress other rappers. You can be basic and vary your subjects quite easily because there is either an easy format to follow, or no format at all...you're not making new formats or catching flows...you're talking over beats with slight rhyme and melody...vs actual rapping.

I can see both sides of the argument with great points but I totally agree with what you said.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Andre does sound like a midwest nikka...rapping fast, doing all types of patterns.
Outkast first album had a west coast tinge to the production...they also had a Cali-like delivery.
Why? At the time, that was the primary influence to ALL rappers outside of NYC.
Outkast is simply an Atlanta version of what freestyle fellowship started...w/ a southern accent and cultural references.
Some folks forget.