Who's the biggest no talent overachiever... Rock Lee or Krillin

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this is a common misconception, rock lee could use chakra just fine. he was able to wall/water walk he just couldn't control it to the point he could use actual ninja techniques
So he is every human in dbz that has ki but cant utilize it in sny way
 

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:usure: Toriyama himself said it's Krillin.
It's well known now that Akira Toriyama has no clue about what's going on in the universe he created.

I mean dude even admitted he forgot that SSJ 2 was a thing:mjlol:


V-Jump: Do you write down notes anywhere for that sort of background information?

Akira Toriyama: No, I don't do that. That's why I keep on forgetting things. If I don't forget stuff, new ideas won't come to mind. For example, you know how there's "Super Saiyan 3??

VJ: Yes. Where the hair gets long.

AT: I didn't know that. (laughs) The whole time, I thought that was "Super Saiyan 2?. (laughs)

VJ: Whaaa?!

AT: And I drew that myself. (laughs) Anyhow, I thought "2" was the one with long hair. It was like, "Man, I've really forgotten stuff...".

Dude even drew Android 18 with purple hair before someone reminded him she was blonde
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It's well known now that Akira Toriyama has no clue about what's going on in the universe he created.

I mean dude even admitted he forgot that SSJ 2 was a thing:mjlol:


V-Jump: Do you write down notes anywhere for that sort of background information?

Akira Toriyama: No, I don't do that. That's why I keep on forgetting things. If I don't forget stuff, new ideas won't come to mind. For example, you know how there's "Super Saiyan 3??

VJ: Yes. Where the hair gets long.

AT: I didn't know that. (laughs) The whole time, I thought that was "Super Saiyan 2?. (laughs)

VJ: Whaaa?!

AT: And I drew that myself. (laughs) Anyhow, I thought "2" was the one with long hair. It was like, "Man, I've really forgotten stuff...".

Dude even drew Android 18 with purple hair before someone reminded him she was blonde
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Don't care. Until he says otherwise, fukk Tien. :dame:
 

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This guy had the nerve to put Krillin up next to Rock Lee. Lee would wipe the floor with Krillin between battles. Kage Bunshin No Neg you to oblivion for this one.
:mjlol:

End game naruto & friends have the same destructive power DBZ characters had in the saiyan saga. Frieza saga Krillin could wipe the floor with the Naruto universe
 

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Relative to their respective Universe the answer is Rock Lee, actually it's a shame the homie didn't get more shine,
agreed, Rock Lee should have been the star of the manga

also i find it funny how Kishimoto completely spat in the face of the hard work competes and beats natural talent message that was in naruto pt 1 by making Naruto the 4th hokage's son, the reincarnation of the son of the strongest beings ever, and having the strongest tailed demon sealed in him:mjlol:
 
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It's well known now that Akira Toriyama has no clue about what's going on in the universe he created.

I mean dude even admitted he forgot that SSJ 2 was a thing:mjlol:


V-Jump: Do you write down notes anywhere for that sort of background information?

Akira Toriyama: No, I don't do that. That's why I keep on forgetting things. If I don't forget stuff, new ideas won't come to mind. For example, you know how there's "Super Saiyan 3??

VJ: Yes. Where the hair gets long.

AT: I didn't know that. (laughs) The whole time, I thought that was "Super Saiyan 2?. (laughs)

VJ: Whaaa?!

AT: And I drew that myself. (laughs) Anyhow, I thought "2" was the one with long hair. It was like, "Man, I've really forgotten stuff...".

Dude even drew Android 18 with purple hair before someone reminded him she was blonde
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This is one of the most heated arguments in the fandom... a lot of it is because both characters rely so heavily on crazy overpowered special attacks that are way stronger than they are (instant-kill destructo disc vs the Tri-beam that is crazy powerful no matter who uses it, but drains the user's life force). While it's true that Tien continued to train after Krillin started a family with 18, I don't see Tien getting THAT much stronger when he's stuck with Chaiotzu as a training partner (and in normal Earth gravity). I feel like Tien is one of those characters has a certain type of aura around him, just because he doesn't appear that often. If he had been featured more regularly, he would have gotten bodied just as often and as badly as the rest of the characters.

*Note: The clip of the destructo disc failing against cell is anime filler.

For what it's worth, Tien actually WAS stronger in the OG Dragonball era up until the Saiyan saga, and then Krillin surpassed him during the Namek storyline when he got his potential unlocked by Guru. After that point, there's not a lot of data on who was officially stronger. (weirdly enough, Krillin got more shine than both Piccolo and Tien in the Saiyan arc even though he was confirmed to be WEAKER than both of them at that point.)

The creators say that it's Krillin, although Tien has definitely had the better showings post-Frieza. Either way, I doubt that either one is vastly stronger than the other.

Speaking of women who fight, there is No. 18.
Toriyama:
Ah, that’s right. No. 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end.
Nozawa:
Ah, I was surprised at that, too! All the voice actors wondered, “Why did she choose Kuririn?” (laughs)

Toriyama:
Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…

Koyama:
Well, he is the strongest Earthling male.

Toriyama:
You’re right, he is the strongest among the Earthlings. But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. (laughs)


SOURCE: Strongest Earthling • Kanzenshuu

I lean towards Krillin, but I admit that I'm somewhat biased since I'm a Krillin fan. He brings more humor and heart to the table that you don't really get from any other character. Every squad needs an underdog, not EVERYBODY can be the stone-faced :birdman: type tough-guy rival character. Tien is still dope though.
 
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