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This. For someone 7'1 and played between 315-350 his whole career to move as gracefully as he did, to have his baseline spin, his dropstep, and his jump hook was amazing.
Who's the worst player on this list
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The number of players that Kobestans have to reflexively hate in order to support his image is off the charts. 
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Until his final two seasons Duncan had only dropped below 15+ppg once in his entire career. Until then he was just as good at scoring as he always had been, he just played fewer minutes.
And, once again, you're showing how bad your hand is by focusing on Duncan's 3rd or 4th best attribute. Duncan was still an All-Defensive team defender, an elite rebounder, and one of the best passing big men in the game who was converting shots at a 50% clip. His per-minute scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks all were as good in 2013 as they had ever been, and only barely worse by 2015.
If Duncan had played 40 minutes a game in 2013, his per-minute numbers would have had him at 24-12-3 and 3.5 blocks/game.
The ONLY reason you can claim he's a "role player" is because Pop was keeping his minutes down around 28-30 a game in order to save him for the playoffs.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Please tell me, Sccit, how many power forwards in 2013-2014 were averaging 20-12-3.5 and 3 blocks/game on 50% shooting in their 36 minutes splits?
Because Shaq says reckless things, that means Kobe was the best player in the world in 2000.
And the Spurs would have had no more than ONE all-star in any of those years, and none at all in 2008 or 2010, and never a superstar until 2015, yet they would have been contenders without Duncan.
Take 2008 for instance - Duncan averages 22-17-5 and 2 blocks/game, but the Spurs still lose to the Lakers in 5 because Ginobli's playing hurt and they have nobody else. Without Duncan that starting lineup is:
Tony Parker averaging 19-4-6 a game
36-year-old Bruce Bowen averaging 7-1-1 a game and ready to retire
34-year-old Michael Finley averging 6-2-1 a game and ready to retire
Ime Udoka averaging 4-2-2 a game
Fabricio Oberto averaging 3-3-1 a game
Those are title contenders according to Sccit.
How does a big man take the 2nd-most shots of anyone on the team and the MOST free throws of anyone on the team when he's only the 4th option?
He scored more than either Wade or Bosh, and scoring wasn't even his first or second main attribute. Are you going to call Wade and Bosh role players?
Duncan was far and away the leading rebounder on the team, the best defensive big man and rim protector, helped run the offense out of the post, and ALSO scored 15.4ppg on 58% shooting in a series where no one had more than 18ppg. His numbers would have looked better if he hadn't played just 33 minutes/game due to all the blowouts. Parker/Kawhi/Duncan/Ginobli were all equally the first option in that series - with Duncan leading in FTs and 2nd in FGs, there's no justification for dropping him below 2nd.
Yes, no one seriously calls Kobe a role player in 2001-2002 except to make fun of you. 2000 for sure though. And he definitely wasn't the best player any of those years, like Duncan was in 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007.
No he doesn't, liar. Duncan has 157 career playoff wins, 2nd most in history, even with coming into the league after 4 years of college.
Kobe only has 135 career playoff wins.
Duncan is the all-time playoff leader in blocked shots.
Kobe is the all-time playoff leader in....missed shots.
The ONLY time that "prime Kobe" led the Lakers to a win over Duncan's team was when Ginobli was hurt and the Spurs' 3rd best player was 36-year-old Brent Barry.
Kobe over his career has a losing record against Duncan, but he ended up not facing him in the playoffs most of those crap years (2005-2007 and 2011-2016), when the Spurs were usually good and would have beaten them, because he only won 2 playoff series total in those 9 years combined.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Until his final two seasons Duncan had only dropped below 15+ppg once in his entire career. Until then he was just as good at scoring as he always had been, he just played fewer minutes.
And, once again, you're showing how bad your hand is by focusing on Duncan's 3rd or 4th best attribute. Duncan was still an All-Defensive team defender, an elite rebounder, and one of the best passing big men in the game who was converting shots at a 50% clip. His per-minute scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks all were as good in 2013 as they had ever been, and only barely worse by 2015.
If Duncan had played 40 minutes a game in 2013, his per-minute numbers would have had him at 24-12-3 and 3.5 blocks/game.
The ONLY reason you can claim he's a "role player" is because Pop was keeping his minutes down around 28-30 a game in order to save him for the playoffs.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Yeah, Duncan was still making All-NBA teams in 2013 and 2015 even though he was interchangeable with any serviceable power forward.
Please tell me, Sccit, how many power forwards in 2013-2014 were averaging 20-12-3.5 and 3 blocks/game on 50% shooting in their 36 minutes splits?
Because Shaq says reckless things, that means Kobe was the best player in the world in 2000.
And the Spurs would have had no more than ONE all-star in any of those years, and none at all in 2008 or 2010, and never a superstar until 2015, yet they would have been contenders without Duncan.
Take 2008 for instance - Duncan averages 22-17-5 and 2 blocks/game, but the Spurs still lose to the Lakers in 5 because Ginobli's playing hurt and they have nobody else. Without Duncan that starting lineup is:
Tony Parker averaging 19-4-6 a game
36-year-old Bruce Bowen averaging 7-1-1 a game and ready to retire
34-year-old Michael Finley averging 6-2-1 a game and ready to retire
Ime Udoka averaging 4-2-2 a game
Fabricio Oberto averaging 3-3-1 a game
Those are title contenders according to Sccit.
How does a big man take the 2nd-most shots of anyone on the team and the MOST free throws of anyone on the team when he's only the 4th option?
He scored more than either Wade or Bosh, and scoring wasn't even his first or second main attribute. Are you going to call Wade and Bosh role players?
Duncan was far and away the leading rebounder on the team, the best defensive big man and rim protector, helped run the offense out of the post, and ALSO scored 15.4ppg on 58% shooting in a series where no one had more than 18ppg. His numbers would have looked better if he hadn't played just 33 minutes/game due to all the blowouts. Parker/Kawhi/Duncan/Ginobli were all equally the first option in that series - with Duncan leading in FTs and 2nd in FGs, there's no justification for dropping him below 2nd.
Yes, no one seriously calls Kobe a role player in 2001-2002 except to make fun of you. 2000 for sure though. And he definitely wasn't the best player any of those years, like Duncan was in 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007.
No he doesn't, liar. Duncan has 157 career playoff wins, 2nd most in history, even with coming into the league after 4 years of college.
Kobe only has 135 career playoff wins.
Duncan is the all-time playoff leader in blocked shots.
Kobe is the all-time playoff leader in....missed shots.
The ONLY time that "prime Kobe" led the Lakers to a win over Duncan's team was when Ginobli was hurt and the Spurs' 3rd best player was 36-year-old Brent Barry.
Kobe over his career has a losing record against Duncan, but he ended up not facing him in the playoffs most of those crap years (2005-2007 and 2011-2016), when the Spurs were usually good and would have beaten them, because he only won 2 playoff series total in those 9 years combined.
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yeah...but its about who's the worst.
shaq is arguably the most efficient player of all time...save for the freethrows
you can have all "games" in the world...but if you needed two points there wasnt much of a safer bet than with shaq in the post as far as big men.
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Tim Duncan
He's the least dominant player out of the list.
He's the least dominant player out of the list.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
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The number of players that Kobestans have to reflexively hate in order to support his image is off the charts.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Until his final two seasons Duncan had only dropped below 15+ppg once in his entire career. Until then he was just as good at scoring as he always had been, he just played fewer minutes.
And, once again, you're showing how bad your hand is by focusing on Duncan's 3rd or 4th best attribute. Duncan was still an All-Defensive team defender, an elite rebounder, and one of the best passing big men in the game who was converting shots at a 50% clip. His per-minute scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks all were as good in 2013 as they had ever been, and only barely worse by 2015.
If Duncan had played 40 minutes a game in 2013, his per-minute numbers would have had him at 24-12-3 and 3.5 blocks/game.
The ONLY reason you can claim he's a "role player" is because Pop was keeping his minutes down around 28-30 a game in order to save him for the playoffs.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Yeah, Duncan was still making All-NBA teams in 2013 and 2015 even though he was interchangeable with any serviceable power forward.
Please tell me, Sccit, how many power forwards in 2013-2014 were averaging 20-12-3.5 and 3 blocks/game on 50% shooting in their 36 minutes splits?
Because Shaq says reckless things, that means Kobe was the best player in the world in 2000.
And the Spurs would have had no more than ONE all-star in any of those years, and none at all in 2008 or 2010, and never a superstar until 2015, yet they would have been contenders without Duncan.
Take 2008 for instance - Duncan averages 22-17-5 and 2 blocks/game, but the Spurs still lose to the Lakers in 5 because Ginobli's playing hurt and they have nobody else. Without Duncan that starting lineup is:
Tony Parker averaging 19-4-6 a game
36-year-old Bruce Bowen averaging 7-1-1 a game and ready to retire
34-year-old Michael Finley averging 6-2-1 a game and ready to retire
Ime Udoka averaging 4-2-2 a game
Fabricio Oberto averaging 3-3-1 a game
Those are title contenders according to Sccit.
How does a big man take the 2nd-most shots of anyone on the team and the MOST free throws of anyone on the team when he's only the 4th option?
He scored more than either Wade or Bosh, and scoring wasn't even his first or second main attribute. Are you going to call Wade and Bosh role players?
Duncan was far and away the leading rebounder on the team, the best defensive big man and rim protector, helped run the offense out of the post, and ALSO scored 15.4ppg on 58% shooting in a series where no one had more than 18ppg. His numbers would have looked better if he hadn't played just 33 minutes/game due to all the blowouts. Parker/Kawhi/Duncan/Ginobli were all equally the first option in that series - with Duncan leading in FTs and 2nd in FGs, there's no justification for dropping him below 2nd.
Yes, no one seriously calls Kobe a role player in 2001-2002 except to make fun of you. 2000 for sure though. And he definitely wasn't the best player any of those years, like Duncan was in 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007.
No he doesn't, liar. Duncan has 157 career playoff wins, 2nd most in history, even with coming into the league after 4 years of college.
Kobe only has 135 career playoff wins.
Duncan is the all-time playoff leader in blocked shots.
Kobe is the all-time playoff leader in....missed shots.
The ONLY time that "prime Kobe" led the Lakers to a win over Duncan's team was when Ginobli was hurt and the Spurs' 3rd best player was 36-year-old Brent Barry.
Kobe over his career has a losing record against Duncan, but he ended up not facing him in the playoffs most of those crap years (2005-2007 and 2011-2016), when the Spurs were usually good and would have beaten them, because he only won 2 playoff series total in those 9 years combined.
I'm a liar?
Now hurry up and bring up shaq, pau and everybody else in another long winded post so I can tell you I don't care. 18 is more than 12. And stop with the Brent Barry shyt. Should of found a better defender for mamba than him
Manu played in those games too so...
If Kobe had multiple games where he went on shooting sprees yet the Spurs left "36 year old Brent Barry" on him? that's on Pop not Kobe. You play who's in front of you. Kobe is #3 on the all time points list and 3rd in post season points and leader in game winners so
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Kareem: 6-time MVP, 2-time Finals MVP, All-time scoring leader
Lebron: 4-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, most complete all-around player ever
Hakeem: 1-time MVP, 2-time Finals MVP, most skilled two-way big man ever
Duncan: 2-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, the greatest big man leader on both ends since Russell
Shaq: 1-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, one of the most dominant inside forces ever
Kobe: 1-time MVP, 2-time Finals MVP, holds all the missed shots records and has some good regular season games in non-competitive years
How old were you 1999-2005? Did you see the list I posted of his dominance during that time?
How do you go a four year stretch in Shaq's prime finishing top-2 in MVP voting every year, winning twice, without being dominant?
How do you average 22-17-5 and 5 blocks/game in the Finals, winning Finals MVP on a team with no other all-stars, without being dominant?
Right in the middle of Shaq's prime, Duncan was at least as dominant as Shaq in terms of all-around game. It's just that Shaq had Kobe as a #2, and Duncan had basically no one until TP came of age around 2005. Yet Duncan still took two titles off the Lakers right there in Shaq's prime, and then a third beating the Pistons team that neither the Shaq-Kobe Lakers nor the Wade-Shaq Heat had been able to beat.
You said that Kobe had more playoff wins, when Duncan clearly has far more. You didn't say, "head to head wins in the playoffs". You didn't say, "Kobe had 14 wins against Duncan by the age of 24 when Shaq was actually the one leading the team, and only 4 more in the next 12 years that followed".
Manu got hurt and the Spurs were shallow as hell. What does that have anything to do with Duncan? He still balled out, he just couldn't beat the Lakers when his 3rd-best player was 36-year-old Brent Barry.
Lebron: 4-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, most complete all-around player ever
Hakeem: 1-time MVP, 2-time Finals MVP, most skilled two-way big man ever
Duncan: 2-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, the greatest big man leader on both ends since Russell
Shaq: 1-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, one of the most dominant inside forces ever
Kobe: 1-time MVP, 2-time Finals MVP, holds all the missed shots records and has some good regular season games in non-competitive years
How old were you 1999-2005? Did you see the list I posted of his dominance during that time?
How do you go a four year stretch in Shaq's prime finishing top-2 in MVP voting every year, winning twice, without being dominant?
How do you average 22-17-5 and 5 blocks/game in the Finals, winning Finals MVP on a team with no other all-stars, without being dominant?
Right in the middle of Shaq's prime, Duncan was at least as dominant as Shaq in terms of all-around game. It's just that Shaq had Kobe as a #2, and Duncan had basically no one until TP came of age around 2005. Yet Duncan still took two titles off the Lakers right there in Shaq's prime, and then a third beating the Pistons team that neither the Shaq-Kobe Lakers nor the Wade-Shaq Heat had been able to beat.
You said that Kobe had more playoff wins, when Duncan clearly has far more. You didn't say, "head to head wins in the playoffs". You didn't say, "Kobe had 14 wins against Duncan by the age of 24 when Shaq was actually the one leading the team, and only 4 more in the next 12 years that followed".
Manu got hurt and the Spurs were shallow as hell. What does that have anything to do with Duncan? He still balled out, he just couldn't beat the Lakers when his 3rd-best player was 36-year-old Brent Barry.
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Your right I was incorrect.
Kobe has more playoff wins aganist Duncan. Sorry.
And Kobe was hurt in 2000 after jalen rose intentionally hurt him so I could care less. Manu played those games and they lost
So manu won them game 3 huh?
kobe trashed them nikkas. I don't care what that team was going through. They made it that far into the playoffs they were good enough. Kobe is 3rd in all time points and post season points so....
The_Third_Man
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I said Duncan is the least dominant OUT OF THE LIST. I didn't say he was never dominant.
In his prime, Shaq was averaging 30, 13, 4, and 3 while shooting 58% from the field for the whole season. When did Duncan average close to that?
The number of players that Kobestans have to reflexively hate in order to support his image is off the charts.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Until his final two seasons Duncan had only dropped below 15+ppg once in his entire career. Until then he was just as good at scoring as he always had been, he just played fewer minutes.
And, once again, you're showing how bad your hand is by focusing on Duncan's 3rd or 4th best attribute. Duncan was still an All-Defensive team defender, an elite rebounder, and one of the best passing big men in the game who was converting shots at a 50% clip. His per-minute scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks all were as good in 2013 as they had ever been, and only barely worse by 2015.
If Duncan had played 40 minutes a game in 2013, his per-minute numbers would have had him at 24-12-3 and 3.5 blocks/game.
The ONLY reason you can claim he's a "role player" is because Pop was keeping his minutes down around 28-30 a game in order to save him for the playoffs.
No, he simply quit and declared Kobe uncoachable.
Yeah, Duncan was still making All-NBA teams in 2013 and 2015 even though he was interchangeable with any serviceable power forward.
Please tell me, Sccit, how many power forwards in 2013-2014 were averaging 20-12-3.5 and 3 blocks/game on 50% shooting in their 36 minutes splits?
Because Shaq says reckless things, that means Kobe was the best player in the world in 2000.
And the Spurs would have had no more than ONE all-star in any of those years, and none at all in 2008 or 2010, and never a superstar until 2015, yet they would have been contenders without Duncan.
Take 2008 for instance - Duncan averages 22-17-5 and 2 blocks/game, but the Spurs still lose to the Lakers in 5 because Ginobli's playing hurt and they have nobody else. Without Duncan that starting lineup is:
Tony Parker averaging 19-4-6 a game
36-year-old Bruce Bowen averaging 7-1-1 a game and ready to retire
34-year-old Michael Finley averging 6-2-1 a game and ready to retire
Ime Udoka averaging 4-2-2 a game
Fabricio Oberto averaging 3-3-1 a game
Those are title contenders according to Sccit.
How does a big man take the 2nd-most shots of anyone on the team and the MOST free throws of anyone on the team when he's only the 4th option?
He scored more than either Wade or Bosh, and scoring wasn't even his first or second main attribute. Are you going to call Wade and Bosh role players?
Duncan was far and away the leading rebounder on the team, the best defensive big man and rim protector, helped run the offense out of the post, and ALSO scored 15.4ppg on 58% shooting in a series where no one had more than 18ppg. His numbers would have looked better if he hadn't played just 33 minutes/game due to all the blowouts. Parker/Kawhi/Duncan/Ginobli were all equally the first option in that series - with Duncan leading in FTs and 2nd in FGs, there's no justification for dropping him below 2nd.
Yes, no one seriously calls Kobe a role player in 2001-2002 except to make fun of you. 2000 for sure though. And he definitely wasn't the best player any of those years, like Duncan was in 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007.
No he doesn't, liar. Duncan has 157 career playoff wins, 2nd most in history, even with coming into the league after 4 years of college.
Kobe only has 135 career playoff wins.
Duncan is the all-time playoff leader in blocked shots.
Kobe is the all-time playoff leader in....missed shots.
The ONLY time that "prime Kobe" led the Lakers to a win over Duncan's team was when Ginobli was hurt and the Spurs' 3rd best player was 36-year-old Brent Barry.
Kobe over his career has a losing record against Duncan, but he ended up not facing him in the playoffs most of those crap years (2005-2007 and 2011-2016), when the Spurs were usually good and would have beaten them, because he only won 2 playoff series total in those 9 years combined.
NOT GUNA READ ALL THAT BS, BUT ALDRIDGE WOULDA MADE ALL-NBA TEAMS AND WON TITLES WITH THE SPURS IN THOSE YEARS TOO
IS ALDRIDGE BETTER THAN KOBE?
THE GUY IS A TOP 50 TALENTED PROPELLED TO TOP 10 BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM HE PLAYED IN .. GARNETT IS ARGUABLY BETTER POUND FOR POUND, HE JUST DIDNT HAVE POP COACHING HIM TO CHAMPIONSHIPS HIS ENTIRE CAREER.
ITS THE RUSSELL VS WILT FACTOR.
Greenhornet
A God Among Kings
if you think his midrange game is his 3rd or 4th best attribute then I dunno what to tell you
im looking at this list head up ... duncan with whatever block stats and shyt you pull out isnt going to be able to stop any of these dudes on the list
he isnt the best at anything over anyone on the list
shaq is probably the only other guy on the list who isnt better than anyone at any specific category
cause you can say its his size ... but lebron thrives off his size just as much as shaq did for the most part and is doing arguably more with it
duncan is just average on this list he doesnt shine over anyone at any one category, he's just a solid player that put in work
Yes, Shaq had ONE year like that, his MVP year in 2000. That was the season that Duncan got hurt and was shut down before the playoffs started. Now look at the seasons around that year, which should be Shaq's prime unless Shaq just as a one-year prime, right?
1999, Duncan finished 3rd in MVP voting and Shaq finished 5th. Spurs sweep Lakers in the WCSF with Duncan dominating with 29-11-3 to Shaq's 24-13-0, Duncan wins title and Finals MVP.
2001, Duncan finished 2nd in MVP voting and Shaq finished 3rd. Lakers sweep Spurs in the playoffs with Duncan/Shaq basically offsetting each other (Shaq 27-13-1 and 1 block to Duncan's 24-12-4 and 4 blocks), but Shaq has far better supporting cast.
2002, Duncan won the MVP and Shaq finished 3rd. Duncan outplays Shaq in the playoffs (ridiculous 29-17-5 and 3 blocks/game to Shaq's 21-12-3 and 3 blocks/game), but again, Shaq has a supporting cast and Duncan doesn't.
2003, Duncan won the MVP and Shaq finished 5th. In the playoffs Duncan has 28-12-5 and 1 block/game to Shaq's 25-14-3 and 3 blocks/game, but for the first time Duncan has Tony/Manu and Kobe plays ballhog, Spurs win in 6 and Duncan goes on to win title and Finals MVP.
If 2000 is Shaq's dominant peak, then why is Duncan outplaying him every other year in the regular season from 1999-2003? Why is Duncan beating him twice in the playoffs during that span and outsplaying him one other time, with only one year (2001) where Shaq beat Duncan while playing even arguably as good as him?
Duncan's prime and Shaq's prime perfectly coincided, and Duncan's all-around game was just as dominant as Shaq's if not more so. Meanwhile, Kobe was never as dominant as either one of them at anything other than taking a lot more shots.
No he wouldn't have.
You're such a dunce on this inability to see anything other than ppg that you can't realize that Duncan is a FAR better defender and leader, as well as a better passer, than Aldridge ever has been or ever will be.
Mr. ppg and Mr. regular season stats must just love Wilt too.
I'd love for you to argue what was so amazing about Popvich's system in 1999-2003 that allowed Duncan to outplay Shaq for the majority of that period while only being a "top 50" talent. How does Duncan average 5 blocks/game in multiple huge playoff series as only a top-50 talent? What about Pop's system gives him lines like 29-17-5 and 3 blocks/game against Shaq and the Lakers or 22-17-5 and 5 blocks/game in the Finals?
And if Pop's system is so great, why did the Spurs only have ONE other player make an All-star game in those 5 years, and in only two of those years at that?
Why the hell does "being the best at any one thing compared to anyone on that list" mean anything?
If you put Iverson on there, he'd be better than everyone else on the list at something. Same with Klay Thompson. Same with Dennis Rodman. That doesn't mean those guys wouldn't still be the weakest players on the list.
Duncan is the 2nd-best defender on that list to Hakeem, the 2nd-best rebounder on that list (arguably) to Hakeem, arguably the best passer out of the post on that list, and the second-best leader on that list to (arguably) Lebron, while being a top scorer in his prime as well and an efficient scorer for his entire career. Being good at everything is better than simply being great one thing. He was a more consistent winner than anyone on that list with the arguable exception of Lebron, and had the longest stretch of sustained excellent play of anyone on that list. He's tied for the NBA record of most All-NBA teams with 15, and holds the NBA record for most All-Defensive teams with 15. He has more blocks in the playoffs than anyone in NBA history by 100 and will never lose that record (the closest active players have less than half his total and are ready to retire), the most double-doubles in the playoffs in NBA history as well, top-3 in PER in the playoffs in NBA history and the 2nd-most wins in NBA history. When you're called the best player at your position AND the best defender at your position for a full decade straight, you're not just "a solid player putting in work"
Then why is he outplaying Shaq in Shaq's peak, winning two titles as the best player on his team in the middle of Kobe's peak, and then nearly taking a Finals MVP from Lebron (and sonning his team the next year), during Lebron's peak?
Greenhornet
A God Among Kings
Why the hell does "being the best at any one thing compared to anyone on that list" mean anything?
If you put Iverson on there, he'd be better than everyone else on the list at something. Same with Klay Thompson. Same with Dennis Rodman. That doesn't mean those guys wouldn't still be the weakest players on the list.
Duncan is the 2nd-best defender on that list to Hakeem, the 2nd-best rebounder on that list (arguably) to Hakeem, arguably the best passer out of the post on that list, and the second-best leader on that list to (arguably) Lebron, while being a top scorer in his prime as well and an efficient scorer for his entire career. Being good at everything is better than simply being great one thing. He was a more consistent winner than anyone on that list with the arguable exception of Lebron, and had the longest stretch of sustained excellent play of anyone on that list. He's tied for the NBA record of most All-NBA teams with 15, and holds the NBA record for most All-Defensive teams with 15. He has more blocks in the playoffs than anyone in NBA history by 100 and will never lose that record (the closest active players have less than half his total and are ready to retire), the most double-doubles in the playoffs in NBA history as well, top-3 in PER in the playoffs in NBA history and the 2nd-most wins in NBA history. When you're called the best player at your position AND the best defender at your position for a full decade straight, you're not just "a solid player putting in work"
Then why is he outplaying Shaq in Shaq's peak, winning two titles as the best player on his team in the middle of Kobe's peak, and then nearly taking a Finals MVP from Lebron (and sonning his team the next year), during Lebron's peak?
we are talking about two entirely different things like I said in my last post
you even started your message with "Why the hell does "being the best at any one thing compared to anyone on that list" mean anything?"
im looking at it from a player to player perspective not a team one
there isnt anyone on the list duncan could stop and besides posting up kobe on offense he would get his food eaten by everyone... all that block shyt and what he did consistent doesnt matter with how im looking at it ... hes not strong enough to guard shaq, lebron ... he's not agile enough to guard kobe or hakeem ... and KAJ would give him that work. racking up blocks on bum ass players doesnt matter to me
its like saying "yo lebron jumped over a human during a game!!!"
then realizing it was just john lucas ... its some normal shyt
and you proved my point about shaq ... besides being big he wasnt really shyt
duncan is career 69% free throw
but I do give him credit and can see you're a big fan and shyt ... I was a suns fan
duncan hit that 3 to seal the game in that series... he's a good player and you gotta always watch him regardless of age
he's actually still really good if he didnt lose acceleration and ive always enjoyed the way he would anchor the defense and make sure people were doing what they were supposed to
It was unanimous. 