Why America Has a Crisis of Masculinity

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There's been a concerned effort, in the last 40 years, to push female empowerment initiatives. While this isn't inherently bad, despite what he-man women haters bytch about, there hasn't been the equivalent movement for men. In some cases, there's been the opposite. Men know more about toxic masculinity than positive masculinity. That's teaching someone how to take a life and expecting them to save lives.

Its left left the door open for grifters and guys operating on pre-80s social dynamics to post 2010 women. Women are confused why men aren't getting with the program, then mistake it for malice while men are confused why aren't behaving like their father said they would and so they blame the culture.


Cultural growing pains. White vs non-white, gay vs straight and even trans :mjlol: relationships are going roughly the same shyt
 

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jesus christ, there are dams that are about to burst, roads that need paving, no funding for schools, no clean drinking water

focusing on shyt like this is a luxury america cannot afford.
It's ironic you say this because when manhood was the focus of everything this country didn't have these problems.
 

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You sound uneducated on what 'militant thinking' even is :manny:

People like you wouldn't have supported Ali back in the day :manny:

What do you mean uneducated? Extremist black militant thinking clouds your judgement. That's all I really said.
 

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What do you mean uneducated? Extremist black militant thinking clouds your judgement. That's all I really said

What do you consider 'extremist black militant thinking'? Name an author or political figure. @horizon wasn't even taking an ideological stand, I just disagreed with how he chose to center his opinion of Black history on civil rights in one comment. You're using gifs and clowning on people who want to wear Afrocentric clothing because you fear people won't take you seriously, but have you ever stopped to think why they wear what they wear? You sound close-minded, I don't get how rejecting certain western norms and embracing Afrocentricity clouds your judgement.
 

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What do you consider 'extremist black militant thinking'? Name an author or political figure. @horizon wasn't even taking an ideological stand, I just disagreed with how he chose to center his opinion of Black history on civil rights in one comment. You're using gifs and clowning on people who want to wear Afrocentric clothing because you fear people won't take you seriously, but have you ever stopped to think why they wear what they wear? You sound close-minded, I don't get how rejecting certain western norms and embracing Afrocentricity clouds your judgement.

You're not understanding what I'm getting at. Just forget about it.
 

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It's ironic you say this because when manhood was the focus of everything this country didn't have these problems.

What's that mean? When in U.S history did we not struggle with failing infrastructure and poor public education? Most of the departments and committees that monitor these things were created post ww1, the EPA was formed in the goddamn 1970's, they didn't even consider these issues back in your manhood golden age. Masculinity, femininity (any identity really) shouldn't be the sole focus of any country.

 

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Men know more about toxic masculinity than positive masculinity. That's teaching someone how to take a life and expecting them to save lives.

Its left left the door open for grifters and guys operating on pre-80s social dynamics to post 2010 women. Women are confused why men aren't getting with the program, then mistake it for malice while men are confused why aren't behaving like their father said they would and so they blame the culture.

Cultural growing pains.

Yup, there are a couple books that feminist author Susan Faludi wrote over 20 years ago on this concept, except she places the blame more on globalization and shifting economy than feminist overreach. It's eerie how this thread follows so many misconceptions that are mentioned in her books, and if you apply it to Black America it gives an interesting perspective on a lot of the rhetoric I read online. Totally forgot about these books, everyone itt should take a look to see if they're interested she predicted incels before I was even born:russ:

Stiffed: The Betrayal of the American Man
Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women
 

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What's that mean? When in U.S history did we not struggle with failing infrastructure and poor public education? Most of the departments and committees that monitor these things were created post ww1, the EPA was formed in the goddamn 1970's, they didn't even consider these issues back in your manhood golden age. Masculinity, femininity (any identity really) shouldn't be the sole focus of any country.


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I don't think its changed since the beginning of time. Its just rising to the surface because of the climate/social media.

When I came up the OGs were hard on us. Softies were demolished and left under the stairs voiceless and unseen.

today that would NEVER fly. you have to be inclusive. if you aren't there are SERIOUS consequences. those days are gone. now we're forced to coexist with them and have to hear them.

it is what it is :manny:
 
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Lol this is the United States. Money has ALWAYS been a barometer of success. Benjamin Franklin was the wealthiest man in America when he wrote the declaration and was certainly one of the most beloved.
That's what I'm saying. That's part of the problem. And it's more true than ever before.
Everyone is bombarded by images of wealth and money and assumes if only they could achieve that, then they'll feel more secure in who they are as a man

Men have been deluded into thinking being financially successful means you're more of a man.
The more money you make the more respect and power you have, the higher the status, the more access to women and land etc

Being wealthy doesn't mean you're more of a man than others
There's lanky and geeky software engineers that make high six figures.
I wouldn't call them more masculine than the average farmers and tradesmen that keep small town towns running.
 
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