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1.)
Top Ten Biblical Discoveries in Archaeology – #3 Jericho

http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2010/09/top-ten-biblical-discoveries-in-archaeology-3-jericho/

Garstang’s conclusions brought a lot of controversy from some of his colleagues who questioned his speedy reporting and dating methods. Garstang asked an up-and-coming British archaeologist named Kathleen Kenyon to study his findings. Kenyon studied all previous findings from Jericho and then led her own excavations from 1952-1958. Her study of Jericho made her famous.
Garstang and Kenyon both discovered a lot of pottery and artifacts from Jericho. Kenyon identified 20 different architectural phases, with evidence that some of these phases lasted for long periods of time, Over the course of the 20 phases there were three major and 12 minor destructions. A fortification tower was rebuilt four times and repaired once, followed by habitation units that were rebuilt seven times. Amazing, Kenyon analyzed more than 20 different time periods of Jericho. There was one layer of history which most closely was in line with the time of the biblical account.

Kenyon describes the calamity she observed through the archaeological findings of the time period most closely related to the Bible:

The destruction was complete. Walls and floors were blackened or reddened by fire, and every room was filled with fallen bricks, timbers, and household utensils; in most rooms the fallen debris was heavily burnt, but the collapse of the walls of the eastern rooms seems to have taken place before they were affected by the fire.

Jericho_Grain.jpg
One of Kenyon’s great discoveries from Jericho was the grain supply. Her team found many jars more than 3,000 years old which were all full of burned grain! Why is this so significant? The military strategy of the day was siege. An army would surround a city, cut off all food and water supply, and wait for the people to starve. A besieged city contains no food at the time of destruction. Additionally, if a city were to surrender before their food supply ran out they would intentionally destroy their remaining food supply knowing it would only feed their enemies.

Many of the jars were still sealed shut, so the city was full of food while it was being destroyed. The jars full of burned grain tell us two things: 1) the city had a full supply of food when it was burned; 2) the defeat of Jericho likely occurred at the beginning of harvest since the city was so well stocked at the time of attack.

Significance

All of these previous findings correlate with the biblical narrative:

  • The city was strongly fortified (Joshua 2:5,7,15, 6:5,20).
  • The attack occurred just after harvest time in the spring (Joshua 2:6, 3:15, 5:10).
  • The inhabitants had no opportunity to flee with their food (Joshua 6:1).
  • The siege was short (Joshua 6:15).
  • The walls were leveled, possibly by an earthquake (Joshua 6:20).
  • The city was not plundered (Joshua 6:17-18).
  • The city was burned (Joshua 6:20)
Kenyon’s Analysis

Kenyon’s full multi-volume report of her excavation (you can buy it online for $1,500 - donations of her report to our ministry will not be rejected) was not published until after her death. Kenyon’s final analysis stated the city was destroyed in 1550 BC instead of 1400 BC. She ultimately disagreed with Garstang’s analysis. In her view, the Israelites come to a totally destroyed city in 1400 BC, not a well-fortified city. The biblical story could not have happened as described. Her dating of 1550 BC mainly came from the lack of an expensive type of pottery from Cyprus popular in 1400 BC. Because of Kenyon’s final analysis many scholars have written off the biblical account of Jericho as a mere fairy tale.

Recent Research

Recent scholars have revisited the archaeological reports. Kathleen Kenyon did a fantastic job documenting the excavation making thorough examination of her discoveries possible. Dr. Bryant G. Wood makes a strong case for the destruction of Jericho to be restored to Garstang’s date of 1400 BC. You can read Dr. Wood’s findings here: http://www.biblearchaeology.org/pos...-New-Look-at-the-Archaeological-Evidence.aspx Among other points, Dr. Wood observes Kenyon excavated in a poor residential part of Jericho. Kenyon should not have expected expensive pottery from Cyprus in a poor part of town. The common pottery she discovered does support a time of 1400 BC. I encourage you to read all of Dr. Wood’s analysis supporting a date of 1400 BC.

Archaeology can be Messy

Jericho is a perfect example of the potential messiness when you step into the world of archaeology. Some scholars interpret the archaeological evidence as a death-blow to the biblical account. Other equally capable scholars interpret the archaeological evidence to be in full support of every little detail mentioned in the book of Joshua. Ultimately it is up to you to study both sides and come to your own conclusion.

Also: http://www.biblearchaeology.org/pos...k-at-the-Archaeological-Evidence.aspx#Article

3.) Jesus stated that not a stone would be left one on another.

http://www.josephus.org/FlJosephus2/warChronology7Fall.html

As written by Josephus:
7.1-4
Jerusalem and the Temple demolished.
Titus orders the whole city and Temple to be razed to the ground, leaving only the tallest towers and a small portion of the wall on the west. The Xth legion is left to garrison Jerusalem.

http://latter-rain.com/Israel/jewar.htm
Some weeks later, after the legions had assaulted the walls and gained entrance like an irresistible stream, the Romans put to the sword all Jews whom they happened to encounter. Titus desired greatly that the Temple should be spared, and promised to spare the Jews if they would stop their resistance. Several times he sent Josephus to persuade his countrymen, but the providence of God directed otherwise. First the Jews themselves set fire to the court of the temple, and afterwards the Romans. Fire consumed the buildings and the temple went up. But the prophecy of the Redeemer had to be fulfilled; the destruction of the temple occurred on the Jewish Sabbath, August 10th, 70. When Jerusalem was captured, the temple was burned and scavengers would turn over every stone to retrieve the melted gold. The Jewish people were expatriated, and never since has sacrifice been offered up to God on Jewish altars.

Mark 13:2 KJV
And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.


There was melted gold in them and they had to turn everyone of those stones to get all of it.

Sounds like the science hasn't been settled on this but at least you are producing evidence.
Check this article out its to long to post it.


https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1155-myth-or-history-did-jerichos-walls-come-down
 

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Sounds like the science hasn't been settled on this but at least you are producing evidence.
Check this article out its to long to post it.


https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1155-myth-or-history-did-jerichos-walls-come-down

Sodom and Gomorrah

http://www.amazinghope.net/sodom-and-gomorrah-a-unique-layered-ash-and-sulfur/

Many try to argue, rebut, challenge those wonderful biblical findings. It claims that in nature in many places is pure sulfur. Yes, I agree in the nature around the world are many sites where there is pure sulfur. Like in Java, where it is mined large pieces of local crystalline sulfur from volcanoes. But it is important to examine how sulfur is found in nature, what is its composition and purity. And then this really compare with samples from the sulfur found cities.

In nature, pure sulfur in a volcano, but not in the form of fine sulfur dust pressed. The volcanoes are located, crystalline sulfur of high purity, calm and 99%.

Sulfur, which was found in places all five cities of Sodom, Gomorrah, Cebojim, Adma, Zoar, in fine powder compressed into a sphere in a burnt capsule. Sulfur is found with a purity up to 98%. There have been many sulfur analysis of samples throughout the world. All experts who were able to test the sulfur stated that the samples are completely unique. Tests can be viewed in the gallery.

When she was tested for sulfur content of Sodom in the state testing laboratory in the Czech Republic, lady lecturer said that pure sulfur saw this tip called ferrosulphur, which is a compound of two elements, and there was a purity of only 46% of sulfur and that it was most telling.

In nature, sulfur dust occurs in 40-60% of maximum quality of purity. Nowhere in the world there is no dust sulfur such as the quality of deposits in five cities.

Is this really necessary to distinguish volcanic sulfur = crystalline sulfur, the world's many and it's in high purity. Sulfur in powder form in nature is really the highest purity of 40-60%. This fact will certify any good textbook of geology.

The deposits of all five cities were found sulfur in the form of fine sulfur dust pressed into balls, encased and burned around the ring and embedded in ash.

Found pressed powder sulfur in Sodom and Gomorrah is the quality to 98% of the world will never so pure sulfur powder is not.

In volcanic regions all over the world is already mentioned crystalline sulfur. Let the pure sulfur in Pompeii, the Philippines, etc. because there was the largest volcanic eruptions ... and you know what's out there ..? Nothing! In Sodom, not the slightest hint of volcanic eruptions, and yet there is ash and sulfur powder of high purity.

Sulfur in Sodom, is unique because it is dust, is sealed, the package is ashen and the so-called Ring of combustion, a phenomenon that the world will never find it. It's the rest of slab melting, but not from the outside inwards, as would be expected for such things, but it's from the inside out. This suggests that the sulfur is melted into something and began to spearhead high temperature to melt outwards, then left behind the so-called combustion circuit.

I stress that these findings are unique in this world and conclusively prove that Sodom and Gomorrah have been found!
 

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Sodom and Gomorrah

http://www.amazinghope.net/sodom-and-gomorrah-a-unique-layered-ash-and-sulfur/

Many try to argue, rebut, challenge those wonderful biblical findings. It claims that in nature in many places is pure sulfur. Yes, I agree in the nature around the world are many sites where there is pure sulfur. Like in Java, where it is mined large pieces of local crystalline sulfur from volcanoes. But it is important to examine how sulfur is found in nature, what is its composition and purity. And then this really compare with samples from the sulfur found cities.

In nature, pure sulfur in a volcano, but not in the form of fine sulfur dust pressed. The volcanoes are located, crystalline sulfur of high purity, calm and 99%.

Sulfur, which was found in places all five cities of Sodom, Gomorrah, Cebojim, Adma, Zoar, in fine powder compressed into a sphere in a burnt capsule. Sulfur is found with a purity up to 98%. There have been many sulfur analysis of samples throughout the world. All experts who were able to test the sulfur stated that the samples are completely unique. Tests can be viewed in the gallery.

When she was tested for sulfur content of Sodom in the state testing laboratory in the Czech Republic, lady lecturer said that pure sulfur saw this tip called ferrosulphur, which is a compound of two elements, and there was a purity of only 46% of sulfur and that it was most telling.

In nature, sulfur dust occurs in 40-60% of maximum quality of purity. Nowhere in the world there is no dust sulfur such as the quality of deposits in five cities.

Is this really necessary to distinguish volcanic sulfur = crystalline sulfur, the world's many and it's in high purity. Sulfur in powder form in nature is really the highest purity of 40-60%. This fact will certify any good textbook of geology.

The deposits of all five cities were found sulfur in the form of fine sulfur dust pressed into balls, encased and burned around the ring and embedded in ash.

Found pressed powder sulfur in Sodom and Gomorrah is the quality to 98% of the world will never so pure sulfur powder is not.

In volcanic regions all over the world is already mentioned crystalline sulfur. Let the pure sulfur in Pompeii, the Philippines, etc. because there was the largest volcanic eruptions ... and you know what's out there ..? Nothing! In Sodom, not the slightest hint of volcanic eruptions, and yet there is ash and sulfur powder of high purity.

Sulfur in Sodom, is unique because it is dust, is sealed, the package is ashen and the so-called Ring of combustion, a phenomenon that the world will never find it. It's the rest of slab melting, but not from the outside inwards, as would be expected for such things, but it's from the inside out. This suggests that the sulfur is melted into something and began to spearhead high temperature to melt outwards, then left behind the so-called combustion circuit.

I stress that these findings are unique in this world and conclusively prove that Sodom and Gomorrah have been found!
There is also a bunch of things disputing these findings as well ok let me as you this how old is the earth?
 

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I just wanted to know why so many black men are becoming atheist, or following new ageism. I know God is real and the Bible stands for Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. I just want to know why black men are leaving God and worship.

I was raised as Catholic. Went to a Catholic high-school and whatnot. We weren't practicing, so to speak, but the idea of God was assumed to be true in our household. I'd say I started to look at religion like :wtb: around age 10. A lot of stuff just didn't add up in my mind so when I got older, Atheism just became the natural answer, I guess.

When you say "I know God is real", does that not require some level of mental gymnastics on your part to reconcile what appears to be a great deal of bs in the bible? Not a troll question, but I mean when you read that stuff, do you take it literally or... nah?
 

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Too all the atheist out there don't let the systems and negativity of this world allow you to deny yourself the spiritual side of human nature.
you're doing yourself a great disservice
 

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There is also a bunch of things disputing these findings as well ok let me as you this how old is the earth?

My point is that they are there to talk about in the first place. I know some have a problem with things in the bible but what do they do when the evidence is corroborated? They switch to something else? How about dealing with what has been verified?

To your question....

Genesis 1:5 KJV
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

In Hebrew day is yowm #03117 in Strongs. It can be
1.) day (24hr) period
2.) time period (era)
3.) time reference (like back in the day)

I think the earth is less than 10k years old.
 

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My point is that they are there to talk about in the first place. I know some have a problem with things in the bible but what do they do when the evidence is corroborated? They switch to something else? How about dealing with what has been verified?

To your question....

Genesis 1:5 KJV
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

In Hebrew day is yowm #03117 in Strongs. It can be
1.) day (24hr) period
2.) time period (era)
3.) time reference (like back in the day)

I think the earth is less than 10k years old.

So you are telling me the same science you are using to prove your points is the same science you are ignoring to prove the bible is factual im sure there are some truths in the bible but the science says the earth is 4 and a half billion years old that's why i cant put faith in the bible.
 

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Whos God?

Their God?

Afrikaans wasnt christians nor bible thumper s, hell they still had thier own language,during slavery..

BUT, IM supposed to believe in a "God" that was forced on my and made to accept by my people?:why:
:ufdup:

:camby:
 

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So you are telling me the same science you are using to prove your points is the same science you are ignoring to prove the bible is factual im sure there are some truths in the bible but the science says the earth is 4 and a half billion years old that's why i cant put faith in the bible.

What I'm using was around before the current methods were even thought of.

They can't both be true. Either the earth is young(er) or older.

I can't believe if you go back to the beginning of nature to the curtain and look behind it you will see more nature.

Time, space and matter had a beginning. What was before had to be timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. Can't explain something from nothing with the something that came afterwards.

Let me ask a question. If you acknowledge there are facts in the bible why throw the facts away?
 

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What I'm using was around before the current methods were even thought of.

They can't both be true. Either the earth is young(er) or older.

I can't believe if you go back to the beginning of nature to the curtain and look behind it you will see more nature.

Time, space and matter had a beginning. What was before had to be timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. Can't explain something from nothing with the something that came afterwards.

Let me ask a question. If you acknowledge there are facts in the bible why throw the facts away?
Not throwing the facts away I am open to the possibility that there are facts in the bible im not closed minded the evidence you presented is disputed by many scientist and scholars at the same time there are many things such as you believing the earth is 10,000 years old which in my opinion is ridiculous and not even up for debate and thats my problem with religion people will remove all logic to follow it.
 

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1.)

Top Ten Biblical Discoveries in Archaeology – #3 Jericho

http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2010/09/top-ten-biblical-discoveries-in-archaeology-3-jericho/

Garstang’s conclusions brought a lot of controversy from some of his colleagues who questioned his speedy reporting and dating methods. Garstang asked an up-and-coming British archaeologist named Kathleen Kenyon to study his findings. Kenyon studied all previous findings from Jericho and then led her own excavations from 1952-1958. Her study of Jericho made her famous.
Garstang and Kenyon both discovered a lot of pottery and artifacts from Jericho. Kenyon identified 20 different architectural phases, with evidence that some of these phases lasted for long periods of time, Over the course of the 20 phases there were three major and 12 minor destructions. A fortification tower was rebuilt four times and repaired once, followed by habitation units that were rebuilt seven times. Amazing, Kenyon analyzed more than 20 different time periods of Jericho. There was one layer of history which most closely was in line with the time of the biblical account.

Kenyon describes the calamity she observed through the archaeological findings of the time period most closely related to the Bible:

The destruction was complete. Walls and floors were blackened or reddened by fire, and every room was filled with fallen bricks, timbers, and household utensils; in most rooms the fallen debris was heavily burnt, but the collapse of the walls of the eastern rooms seems to have taken place before they were affected by the fire.

Jericho_Grain.jpg
One of Kenyon’s great discoveries from Jericho was the grain supply. Her team found many jars more than 3,000 years old which were all full of burned grain! Why is this so significant? The military strategy of the day was siege. An army would surround a city, cut off all food and water supply, and wait for the people to starve. A besieged city contains no food at the time of destruction. Additionally, if a city were to surrender before their food supply ran out they would intentionally destroy their remaining food supply knowing it would only feed their enemies.

Many of the jars were still sealed shut, so the city was full of food while it was being destroyed. The jars full of burned grain tell us two things: 1) the city had a full supply of food when it was burned; 2) the defeat of Jericho likely occurred at the beginning of harvest since the city was so well stocked at the time of attack.

Significance

All of these previous findings correlate with the biblical narrative:

  • The city was strongly fortified (Joshua 2:5,7,15, 6:5,20).
  • The attack occurred just after harvest time in the spring (Joshua 2:6, 3:15, 5:10).
  • The inhabitants had no opportunity to flee with their food (Joshua 6:1).
  • The siege was short (Joshua 6:15).
  • The walls were leveled, possibly by an earthquake (Joshua 6:20).
  • The city was not plundered (Joshua 6:17-18).
  • The city was burned (Joshua 6:20)
Kenyon’s Analysis

Kenyon’s full multi-volume report of her excavation (you can buy it online for $1,500 - donations of her report to our ministry will not be rejected) was not published until after her death. Kenyon’s final analysis stated the city was destroyed in 1550 BC instead of 1400 BC. She ultimately disagreed with Garstang’s analysis. In her view, the Israelites come to a totally destroyed city in 1400 BC, not a well-fortified city. The biblical story could not have happened as described. Her dating of 1550 BC mainly came from the lack of an expensive type of pottery from Cyprus popular in 1400 BC. Because of Kenyon’s final analysis many scholars have written off the biblical account of Jericho as a mere fairy tale.

Recent Research

Recent scholars have revisited the archaeological reports. Kathleen Kenyon did a fantastic job documenting the excavation making thorough examination of her discoveries possible. Dr. Bryant G. Wood makes a strong case for the destruction of Jericho to be restored to Garstang’s date of 1400 BC. You can read Dr. Wood’s findings here: http://www.biblearchaeology.org/pos...-New-Look-at-the-Archaeological-Evidence.aspx Among other points, Dr. Wood observes Kenyon excavated in a poor residential part of Jericho. Kenyon should not have expected expensive pottery from Cyprus in a poor part of town. The common pottery she discovered does support a time of 1400 BC. I encourage you to read all of Dr. Wood’s analysis supporting a date of 1400 BC.

Archaeology can be Messy

Jericho is a perfect example of the potential messiness when you step into the world of archaeology. Some scholars interpret the archaeological evidence as a death-blow to the biblical account. Other equally capable scholars interpret the archaeological evidence to be in full support of every little detail mentioned in the book of Joshua. Ultimately it is up to you to study both sides and come to your own conclusion.

Also: http://www.biblearchaeology.org/pos...k-at-the-Archaeological-Evidence.aspx#Article

3.) Jesus stated that not a stone would be left one on another.

http://www.josephus.org/FlJosephus2/warChronology7Fall.html

As written by Josephus:
7.1-4
Jerusalem and the Temple demolished.
Titus orders the whole city and Temple to be razed to the ground, leaving only the tallest towers and a small portion of the wall on the west. The Xth legion is left to garrison Jerusalem.

http://latter-rain.com/Israel/jewar.htm
Some weeks later, after the legions had assaulted the walls and gained entrance like an irresistible stream, the Romans put to the sword all Jews whom they happened to encounter. Titus desired greatly that the Temple should be spared, and promised to spare the Jews if they would stop their resistance. Several times he sent Josephus to persuade his countrymen, but the providence of God directed otherwise. First the Jews themselves set fire to the court of the temple, and afterwards the Romans. Fire consumed the buildings and the temple went up. But the prophecy of the Redeemer had to be fulfilled; the destruction of the temple occurred on the Jewish Sabbath, August 10th, 70. When Jerusalem was captured, the temple was burned and scavengers would turn over every stone to retrieve the melted gold. The Jewish people were expatriated, and never since has sacrifice been offered up to God on Jewish altars.

Mark 13:2 KJV
And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.


There was melted gold in them and they had to turn everyone of those stones to get all of it.


none of this shyt means your god existed.

People lived back then.

So?
 
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