Why Are Black Ppl Mad At Jay-Z For "Kicking Knowledge"?

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Him talking about Maybachs and Tom Ford is the reason why nikkas listen to him...

Which got him his fortune...

:mjlol:

Cuz the 7 albums he put out before we knew what a Maybach was went platinum off Tom Ford references, right?
Jay's shtick has always been heavy dopeboy imagery and slight narcissim.. That's why he's top tier, not because he has alot of money.. Master P and P Diddy are also quite wealthy.


So write a book. Hosts free seminars. Where talking about music. The shyt he's talking against was perpetuated and glorified by him for decades.

And he's talking down to people not building them up. There's a difference.
That's a matter of perception, my brother.. If him talking about betering YOURSELF made you feel that he's talking down to you, then you gotta look inward.
 

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it's disingenuous.

he's preaching against what he spent the majority of his career glorifying.

he literally got to where he is in life doing things he's preaching against now.
Imo it makes his point more valid. He's been there and done that. He's always made smart decisions financially
 

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Has everything to do with age...

When Jay Z was in his prime...he was rapping about not giving bytches shyt and kicking bytches out and blowing money and selling drugs...and admitting he sold out...

And then the rappers in their prime trying get their money by rapping about the same shyt...and he gonna criticize?


nikka please....


nikka be real...you sold out and now you wanna around on the back end and try to be the elderstatemen...


nikkas like Common got the right to criticize...nikkas like Lupe got the right to criticize...nikkas like Talib Kweli got the right to criticize, nikkas like Mos Def...

nikkas like Jay Z need to stfu...he ain't gonna give the money back he made about rapping about bullshyt...but he wanna have all the money and try to dictate what other nikkas do...?

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Again.. its the context and timing of it all.

He's critiquing content. The same content that made him rich. He's critiquing lyrics. The same lyrics that made him who he was today. He sacrificed nothing. He didn't practice it when he was hot.

If Drake did the same thing it would be different. Drakes platform and fan base is different form Jay's. Most people in their early 20's don't even listen to Jay Z's music because he's too old.

Kendrick Lamar's impact is greater because he's in his 20's and the prime of his career.

...Im glad you mentioned kendrick lamar. Hes one of my fav. Considering Age, i understand it in the context of being influential. Obviously a 20's will connect more with 20's, and so on. But as far as ..."hes too old, therefore he should not be dropping gems to the youth" talk, i dont get it.

So what he is critiquing content. This doesnt make sense. What are you sayinng...he cannot have a revelation? He cant have come to a realization that such content isnt cool? Suppose he has, why cant he express that to help other "see the light?" Oh, just because he once didnt see the light, therefore he cant speak on it??

Are you saying because (X) was once a crack head in his 20's, even though he changed his life and doesnt do it anymore, now that hes 50 and clean... he doesnt have the right to speak on it to the youth???

Are you saying that because (X) was once in their 20's a christian preaching the "word of God", even though he has since changed his life for the better and stopped believing... he doesnt have the right to warn others of their foolery in believing in the christian doctrine???
 
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Imo it makes his point more valid. He's been there and done that. He's always made smart decisions financially

They think jay did all the dumb shyt that's going on now and that he was clueless, dude has always been a stunter but business was handled first. He was a part owner of rocafella records, he was a part owner of rocawear, every business he's been in he's had ownership. Before he flossed business was taken care of, that's all he's saying.
 

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it's disingenuous.

he's preaching against what he spent the majority of his career glorifying.

he literally got to where he is in life doing things he's preaching against now.
this is silly

guess ex gangbangers shouldnt warn kids to stay away from joining gangs then. it'll be disingenuous :troll:
 

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Imo it makes his point more valid. He's been there and done that. He's always made smart decisions financially

Jay Z's fortune comes off owning Rocafella records...which then turned into State Property and Rocafella Clothing and Dipset...

if Jay Z didn't sell albums...he would be broke...

Jay Z told you he dumbed down his lyrics and rapped about ignorant shyt to sell albums...

If Jay Z didnt rap about ignorant shyt he wouldn't be wealhty...


So now he is telling young artists..."Hey don't rap about ignorant shyt..."

"Why you rapping about going to the strip club..."

These artists are doing the same fukking shyt he did...and now he wanna shut the shyt down...

Let's be real....Jay Z is one of those old nikkas that can't tolerate young nikkas enjoying their life and getting put on...

The same reason why he came down hard on autotune is the same reason why he coming down on strip club and instagram culture...

nikka is just a hater..

If this was Common rappin this shyt...or Lupe Fiasco...whose whole entire career was about deterring nikkas from the street life..not just the tail end of their career....then it would be different...

But it's fukking Jay Z that dissed Nas for "kicking knowledge" the Jay Z that told Harry Belafonte that his prescene is enough...the Jay Z that told nikkas he sold out to get money...

:mjlol:
 

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They think jay did all the dumb shyt that's going on now and that he was clueless, dude was alway been a stunter but business was handled first. He was a part owner of rocafella records, he was a part owner of rocawear, every business he's been in he's had ownership. Before he flossed business was taken care of, that's all he's saying.
They act like Jay hasn't been a black business owner and has employed dozens of black men and women for 20 years now. Dudes sounding like straight up women
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I hate when black folks jump out the window over the most obvious shyt.....really....credit is good?

No shyt.

Then they get furious and call you everything but a man of god cause you don't act like it's the greatest think you have ever heard.

What's makes it even worse is that this man has been saying the exact opposite his whole career.

Then they :yeshrug: when said idol proves to be full of shyt.

That's the problem with some black people. If you can make it sound good, black people will go along with it no matter what. And completely disown their brother for temporary amusement. Of all people op should understand that.
 

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this is silly

guess ex gangbangers shouldnt warn kids to stay away from joining gangs then. it'll be disingenuous :troll:

No..ex gangbangers telling kids not to gangbanging...wouldn't still be in a gang...

Jay Z still got the majority of his fortune for rapping about bullshyt and it ain't like giving it away...

If you gonna profit from fukkery and dedicate your life to rapping about fukkery then stfu...

Jay Z had a song called Tom Ford 2 years ago rapping about how he piss Bordeaux and Burgundies and telling nikkas to blow a stack and now he worried about what nikkas spend in the strip club? :lolbron:

JAY-Z – Tom Ford Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
Paris where we been, pard' my Parisian
It's Hov time in no time, it's fukk-all-y'all season
Piss Bordeaux and Burgundies, flush out a Riesling
When Hov's out, them hoes out, y'all put y'all weaves in, and
Clap for a nikka with his rapping ass

Blow a stack for your nikkas with your trapping ass
Spent all my euros on tuxes and weird clothes
I party with weirdos,
yeah Hov, yeah Hov
 

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the problem is with the rap today and mindset of today among blacks.... black people don't want knowledge, they want 4th grade gibberish lyrics and partying and thugging it out 24/7, even the adults in their 30s and 40s still on kid shyt

i don't think what jay is saying is knowledge.. it's observation of what he see today....
 

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Jay Z's fortune comes off owning Rocafella records...which then turned into State Property and Rocafella Clothing and Dipset...

if Jay Z didn't sell albums...he would be broke...

Jay Z told you he dumbed down his lyrics and rapped about ignorant shyt to sell albums...

If Jay Z didnt rap about ignorant shyt he wouldn't be wealhty...


So now he is telling young artists..."Hey don't rap about ignorant shyt..."

"Why you rapping about going to the strip club..."

These artists are doing the same fukking shyt he did...and now he wanna shut the shyt down...

Let's be real....Jay Z is one of those old nikkas that can't tolerate young nikkas enjoying their life and getting put on...

The same reason why he came down hard on autotune is the same reason why he coming down on strip club and instagram culture...

nikka is just a hater..

If this was Common rappin this shyt...or Lupe Fiasco...whose whole entire career was about deterring nikkas from the street life..not just the tail end of their career....then it would be different...

But it's fukking Jay Z that dissed Nas for "kicking knowledge" the Jay Z that told Harry Belafonte that his prescene is enough...the Jay Z that told nikkas he sold out to get money...

:mjlol:
You sound like a bytch. Fabricating and shyt:scust:

Jay always made dope music. That's what counts at the end. Jay gave us a black owned empire to support. If you wanna hate in some petty shyt that's on you. Jay is 47 years old. Why would he have the same mindset he did at 35? People grow
 
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